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Discussion in 'Feedback & FAQ' started by Hybrid, Aug 22, 2011.

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    Gloomy Mushroom

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    Well if it is anything, you have now introduce me to the term "flamebait" which until this thread I have never heard it be used.
     
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    Derek

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    It is a good idea Hybrid, but I can just quickly see it becoming a war between Nu-Metal fans and MTM/ATS fans. 'LOLZ A THOUSAND SUNS SUCKS, THIS GUY DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT. NU-METALZ 4 LYFE *DOWNVOTE*'
     
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    Niklas

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    im on part with Derek here. It is too easy to abuse such a System, especially with a Board dedicated to a Band, where Opinions differ vastly.
     
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    Hybrid

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    Haha! You're welcome.

    Alright that's fine. It's not for the LPA. I actually thought about that whole NUMETALZ vs the world peeps before posting this and how easily they can suck the life out of anything... lulz.

    Anyways... Like I said though. The LPA is looking for ideas, I'll give 'em because I want to help.
     
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    Vriska

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    I see people misuse this sort of thing all the time.

    On Youtube, people mark posts as spam when someone accidentally reposts something, or simply for disagreeing. And that's not the point of the spam button. I've seen political opponents mass-flag innocent videos for pornography or copyright infringement simply for disagreeing.

    The Firefox "Web of trust" plugin has a system where people rate websites based on child safety, vendor reliability, viruses and so on. It's fubar because I saw a link to a site owned by the catholic church redmarked for simply being the catholic church, even though it had no viruses or anything (though they're really pushing it on child safety). Although, I have avoided all rickrolling attempts on me since I've installed it.

    Reddit is the closest I've seen to a system like this working, BUT, they have a phenomenon over there called karma whoring where people just abuse the system to get karma.


    This leads me to ask, what is the real point of having a karma system? It's only real benefit is to newbies who can get a quick glance to find out who are the most respected people (and therefore the LPA's social hierarchy) here without lurking too long. The oldbies already know reputation from being here, and it just becomes a useless penis-size contest where people whore for karma.

    But a post count sort-of achieves the same thing. Sort of, only because there are people like me who have reputations that carried over from other message boards (25,000 posts), but a karma system would also only sort-of achieve it because of people misusing the system.

    If the whole of LPA was the Serious Chat forum, it would make a ton of sense, but I would change the +cool and -lame ratings to ones based on this pyramid, maybe.

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    $pvcxGhxztCasey

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    Can we stop being protected like little children and please add this in? I trust that the collective consciousness of LPA can use this feature like the adults we are. I mean, if you still want to protect the egos of the sort of people that would get offended at having a post -1'd, I visit a forum quite often that only has the ability to plus 1 posts, so I guess there's that.

    But I mean, really, and I mean no offense when I say this, I've seen a lot of ideas shot down because it might hurt other members feelings if someone decided to be a troll and misuse a feature, and it's kind of lame. C'mon, let's make this place fun and interactive, other boards have it and it's pretty awesome. We're all adults here (most of us, anyway) and we can handle a simple little feature like a plus/negative vote on a post.

    Personally, I would be giddy with happiness if I saw one of my posts marked down to a -23 or something. C'mon!!!

    EDIT: It's not like this place is crawling with people that hold grudges or vendettas against other members, those days have long since passed.
     
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    Derek

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    It's not even about hurt feelings, it's about popularity contests. In the same way it could be abused with negative scores, if we removed that option altogether, we could have people with 30+ likes just because of who they are and not because the post is that great. Would you really want that?
     
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    $pvcxGhxztCasey

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    Is this really happening? It'd be something fun and neat and a little silly to add to LPA, but we're not going to do it because people might not +1 a post because it's not a great post, but because of who it came from? I like to think that the regular members, the ones who would use it the most, would know how to properly use this feature. A few bad eggs in the bunch shouldn't have to ruin this for everyone. At the end of the day, it'd be something cool. People already judge their worth and seniority by post count and join dates, why not add a reputation system? It's not a big deal, I don't think.

    The people that would make a fuss about others getting more likes, or whatever, than themselves are the types of people that shouldn't be taken seriously anyway. It's the internet, it IS a big popularity contest.
     
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    Tim

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    Maybe you could limit the rating by post count. For instance, only people with 500-1000 posts could rate another user's posts.

    I don't have a dog in this race either way. Just throwing around ideas.
     
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    Benjamin

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    I find myself agreeing with Casey.

    And if it turns out to go all bad, can't you just remove it? I don't see any harm in trying it. Like I said earlier, it would spice things up. Honestly, I feel sorry for anyone who would feel sad because they got rated poorly for a post.
     
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    $pvcxGhxztCasey

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    All I'm saying is, every other forum I visit that has this feature, the members don't +1 or -1 posts just because of who posted them, it's usually based solely on the content of the post and whether the member rating it agrees with it, disagrees, thinks it's funny, etc.

    Except for the Odd Future forums, but that's to be expected when most of the fanbase are in their early to mid teens.
     
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    Derek

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    Is it really going to impact the enjoyment of the forums considerably if we do not have a Plus/Minus system? I've seen a lot of arguments in this thread as to why it would be a bad idea, but very few that showcase why it would a good idea. I just don't want us to put this in effect and for it to turn into complete chaos within a month or so.
     
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    $pvcxGhxztCasey

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    I think you're putting too much stock in the idea that people are going to use it with bad intentions. I think everyone is, actually. Unless you've posted at a forum that actually uses it the way it's meant to be used, I think the general thought about the idea is that it's a bad idea that could only cause fights with other members, but it's really not the case. It's not used as a bragging right, or another way to measure your e-penis. I mean, like I said, we already have that, with the member title things, obscenely high post counts and whatnot.

    I think the collective IQ of LPA is high enough that we won't abuse it. I really can't believe we're even having this discussion. I mean, while we're at it, let's just enable the dirty words filter again, because saying fuck might offend some people :p

    EDIT: It's not going to impact my enjoyment, or lack thereof (lol, sometimes) of the forums if it's not implimented, but I saw this thread and saw that the idea was beginning to be shot down because some members might be offended/hurt/whatever that others are getting more plus ones than others, and I had to say something. I get, and actually like, that the members on this site are treated like actual humans instead of just members on a forum, but at some point or another, you've gotta just put in a feature and see what happens instead of being the overly concerned parental figure in this situation. Just saying, either way, I don't give a toss. lol
     
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    Derek

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    We'll discuss it as staff and weigh it out. Best I can really say right now without having the input of the other staff to fall back on.
     
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    Ree

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    I agree with Casey's point about LPA members having a higher level of IQ. It could be a fun feature and as Timothy said, maybe people with over a certain amount of post can rate/be rated. This could encourage newbies to post more.

    I don't get offended easily so I don't care if I get a negative point thing. I don't see myself giving people bad ratings just because I don't agree with their opinions either :lol: so I would use this feature to rate members in a positive way.

    It seems like a fun feature. Just sayin'.
     
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    Benjamin

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    I agree Ree! I think it'd be nice if, for instance, I made a post where I try to be funny and see how many people think it's funny. If it gets a lot of likes than I'd feel good and if it didn't then maybe I'd reconsider making similar jokes in the future.

    I dunno.
     
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    Vriska

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    Well, okai.
     
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    El Muerto

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    +1 for Casey
     
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    Hybrid

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    Maybe do a Facebook 'like' system... I think that would be cool.
     
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    Benjamin

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    If it was something that involved the shit I'm liking actually pop up on my FB profile...then hell no.
     

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