You Opinion on How Minutes to Midnight Should have been (tracklist revision)

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    Qwerty19

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    But...Given Up and Bleed It Out were 2 of the only songs that brought up the energy level in MTM, while No Roads Left and Not Alone would have been 2 more mid-tempo songs. You might not like those 2 tracks, but don't you find they were better addition to MTM for the balance of the record? I would like to hear what you think about this :)
     
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    Jesse

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    Very simply

    2 good songs are better than 2 bad songs.

    What the hell does pace have to do with it?


    Let's use your argument for pizza, shall we?

    Original pizza has Anchovies, Pepperoni, Bacon, Cheese, and Ham.

    The question is if you could replace any 2 toppings with another 2 topping which would you choose?

    I say replace Bacon and Ham with Steak and Chicken

    You say

    But...Bacon and Ham were the only two ingredients of pork. While Steak and Chicken may be good don't you think that Ham and Bacon are a better addition to the pizza?/QUOTE]

    I go LOLWUT?

    You don't have any Bacon and Ham to have a better pizza.



    So, in conclusion, you don't need to have two more faster paced or up-tempo songs to have a better album.
     
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    Atticus

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    While that was a nice analogy, somehow you left the anchovies on the pizza. Therefore, it's kind of an invalid argument.

    Anyways, this is my revised tracklist:

    1. Wake
    2. Given Up
    3. Leave Out All The Rest
    4. Bleed It Out
    5. Blackbirds
    6. What We Don't Know
    7. In Pieces
    8. Pretend To Be (It's an MtM sounding track. Get over it.)
    9. No Roads Left
    10. Valentine's Day
    11. Shadow Of The Day
    12. What I've Done
    13. Hands Held High
    14. Across The Line
    15. No More Sorrow
    16. The Little Things Give You Away

    A finished Debris would come in somewhere right before No More Sorrow, and Asbestos would probably be before/after Given Up. The other LPU12 tracks are too incomplete to place.
     
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    1. Clarity (finished with vocals and drums)
    2. Given Up
    3. Asbestos
    4. Across the Line
    5. Bleed it Out
    6. Debris
    7. Leave out all the Rest
    8. QWERTY
    9. Hands Held High
    10. In Between
    11. Pale
    12. The Little Things Give You Away
     
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    Qwerty19

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    Yep, nice analogy. I was only surprised to see a guy, which seems to think that varied records are more interesting than records that consist of the same stuff again and again, wanting MTM to be more of the same stuff.

    Also, to put that out there, you'll never get a consensual response on the fact that GU and BIO are indeed bad songs. You're more attracted by alt rock than by pissed-of punk rock, that's all. So if we consider them on the same level than NRL and NA, I just think their addition to MTM was a way better choice, since it gave the record more variety.
     
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    Avo

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    I'd toss Given Up, What I've Done, and No More Sorrow; and put in No Roads Left, Across the Line, and Blackbirds.
     
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    1. Pale (Full song w/vocals)
    2. Given Up/Asbestos (some sort of mix of the two)
    3. Leave Out All The Rest
    4. Bleed It Out
    5. What I've Done
    6. Blackbirds
    8. Debris (Finished)
    9. No More Sorrow
    10. Across The Line (finished - even though it practically is)
    11. In Pieces
    12. QWERTY
    13. What We Don't Know (finished)
    14. No Roads Left
    15. The Little Things Give You Away
     
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    hybridsoldier1989

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    1. No More Sorrow
    2. Debris
    3. Bleed It Out
    4. In Pieces
    5. Leave Out All The Rest
    6. In Between

    Yep, should have just been an EP. lolz

    All of the other songs from the era are largely baf.
     
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    Hybrid

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    I would actually leave it as is. The statement that the album was intended to make has done so. It was done well, in fact. I got No Roads Left with my digital preorder through Itunes, so I consider it an "extra track," if you will, on the album. The extra couple of finished songs that we got out of the mix are a nice touch as B-sides, and to this day I still think of them as such.
     
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    lime treacle

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    It fucking should have been like it is!
     
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    Jesse

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    Diverse albums are more interesting, but a diverse album that consists of bad (imo) tracks is still a bad album no matter how diverse it may be. You can have an album that has country, dubstep, bluegrass, and A Capella but if all the tracks are bad, it doesn't matter. :lol:
     
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    1.) Pale
    2.) Given Up
    3.) Asbestos or Grecian
    4.) What We Don't Know
    5.) What I've Done
    6.) Pretend To Be
    7.) Bleed It Out
    8.) QWERTY
    9.) Shadow Of The Day
    10.) Across The Line
    11.) Leave Out All The Rest
    12.) No More Sorrow
    13.) Hands Held High
    14.) Valentine's Day
    15.) In Pieces
    16.) Debris
    17.) No Roads Left
     
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    TheZlajaZlo

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    Kinda agree.
     
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    It's fine as it is. Even if I don't like In Between and Hands Held High.

    And I thought Blackbirds was post MTM?
     
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    Qwerty19

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    Nope. It was made during the MTM session, we can even hear a Blackbirds snippet during either the MTM making of or a LPTV related to the making of MTM (can't remember!)

    Anyway, since I still haven't answered the thread subject, I'd have loved MTM to be half punky (in the vein of Given Up, Qwerty, Asbestos), and half "darky" (in the vein of What We Don't Know/Blackbirds/Across The Line/ In Pieces)

    The only tracks I'd never have included on it are LOATR and SOTD, which I'm not a fan of at all.
     
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    I remember them saying for the iPhone game that it was a brand new song? Like, completely new...
     
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    Qwerty19

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    Well, when they said "brand new", it was more in the sense of never-heard-before track. I can assure you this comes from the MTM session; see this, which was posted way before Blackbirds was released in full form (3:30 mark) :)
    [video=youtube;wAZvl2oaB8c]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAZvl2oaB8c[/video]
     
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    1. Bang Three
    2. Given Up (or Asbestos or kind of a mix)
    3. What We Don't Know
    4. Leave Out All the Rest
    5. Bleed It Out
    6. Shadow of the Day
    7. Blackbirds
    8. No More Sorrow or Valentine's Day (you may choose)
    9. Hands Held High
    10. No Roads Left
    11. Across the Line
    12. Pale
    13. The Little Things Give You Away
     
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    01. Wake
    02. Given Up
    03. Bleed It Out
    04. Leave Out All The Rest
    05. Shadow Of The Day
    06. What I've Done
    07. Hands Held High
    08. Blackbirds
    09. What We Don't Know
    10. Asbestos (if it was finished)
    11. In Pieces
    12. Little Things Give You Away
     
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    You've got it all wrong. Replace the anchovies with sausage.
     

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