So what if he doesn't think homosexuality is right? You don't think religion is right and I still wouldn't give a shit if you made joke songs about Jesus.
I don't think a lot of things are right, it doesn't mean I can't still love and have respect for that person Todd. And foreal thankyou El Muerto, somebody gets it.
Not agreeing with someone's sexual orientation is the same as not agreeing with someone's skin color. It's a trait someone is born with and has no control over. It's insulting and bigoted. The big difference between sexual orientation and religion is you choose your religion.
I see we disagree here. Which is beside the point in the first place, as I was embracing homosexuality. But we can keep drilling the conservative if its that much fun.
Well that's just your own view.. Thinking that 95% of the world population is insane for being religious is at least just as insulting and bigoted as not supporting the 5% of the world population that's gay. But I don't really wanna get involved in the same argument for the twentieth time, all I wanted to do is just say that I think that ThaHandyman didn't actually do anything wrong.
Bigotry against either wouldn't be right but still, religion is an idea, an opinion. It's ultimately something you don't have to partake in if you don't want to. There's more grounds to make fun of that than there are for doing it to homosexuality, where pretty much every piece of evidence I've ever seen, whether they say it's biological or environmental, says it isn't a choice you make of your own accord. Why would you? And as a comedian, ultimately I'd like to think it's ok to joke about anything, but there's a difference between breaking taboos and using "lol just joking" as an excuse for genuinely being a bigot. Not accusing anyone here of that, I can't really because I've barely paid attention to this thread previous to this particular part of the discussion.
Then read my first post where I was ohhh such a bad boy. And again thank you El Muerto, couldn't have said it better myself! Its about time someone on here is thinking before hitting submit reply!
You need to stop being such a smart ass (like you were above) and stop being disrespecting towards the moderating staff, or else you'll be getting a banned message "before you're hitting submit reply" because your attitude is getting old. If you're yelled at for the way you're handling yourself in this thread, it's not an invitation to tell us to "get off our high horses" or an invitation to continue to act like an ass and word your posts in a smart ass way. You've used the word gay in a negative fashion before (as your previous infractions show), made posts that have been construed as ignorant towards other people, and therefore we're not exactly believing of you when you claim to be joking. Furthermore, you may claim that we're not tolerating of religious folk, but there's a difference: You choose your religion, you don't choose your sexuality. And that's backed up by scientific research that has stated time and time again that sexuality is determined before the kid is even born. Case in point? I used to be Lutheran and believe in an all knowing god, until I realized how full of shit the church is and became an athiest/agnostic. However; am I going to judge you for believing in god or claim you're wrong to believe in an entity of which there is no scientific proof of existence? No. However; you could become a buddhist overnight and it wouldn't hurt you because religion is a choice. A gay male doesn't wake up one day and say "I'm going to stop liking dick, and go for pussy", it doesn't work that way.
I shouldn't have to be smart, but you took what I said way out of context and I was letting you know you were wrong. And btw, my previous infraction was for saying g*y, with the astrisk, and I'm pretty sure I was saying what someone else said. Which again, is beside the point of me having innocent intentions in this thread. It's pretty obvious that I'm doing exactly what the Foo Fighters were doing, I was like "hey what a coincidence, I'm sure they'll appreciate this!" And as Muerto pointed out, though you may think you choose religion and homosexuality, not all of us do. Science contradicts itself time and time again while my faith (notice not religion) remains the same. You totally misconstrued my text, which was made pretty obvious by the silly video. I'm not trying to be smart, just have a good time even though yall completely missed it and were so eager to throw the flags when there was no penalty. Watch the replay plz.
And again you're an ass in the last part of your post. Is it really necessary? You could've just had the first paragraph you had and left it there. Our problem with you is not your beliefs, but the way you word your posts. Not only are you usually always sarcastic in response in moderators, but you make remarks that are 9 times out of 10 easily construed as bigoted, and then backtrack and claim to be joking when the pressure piles on you from moderators/members of these boards. It's like the left side of your brain doesn't agree with the other. If you intend something to be joking, make it clear. Don't say something that sounds one way, and then backpedal and claim it was a joke after everyone calls you out on it. And certainly don't be a smartass, when (by your own fault) the post came off completely the wrong way. Say what you mean, and say it clear. Then you won't have the problem of people taking you out of context.
Woah, further attacking my character? I'm not a pussy. I'll be honest, if you don't know, ask me, you don't have to throw 'pre-warnings' around. I've never once said 'oh but i didn't mean' or 'back pedaled'. I'm not trolling about here, you simply took what I said and very ineffectively made me the bad guy. Again, its pretty obvious what I was aiming for if you saw the video. It was just in line with this thread. And yes, Todd is a huge liberal, as he's said himself, and I assume you're pretty liberal yourself, so yes we'll have disagreements, that doesn't mean you need to falsify my texts to fit in with your agenda. Don't ask me to compramise my character, as long as I stay with in the rules of this board, I know I'm witty, and say what I mean. At first glance it might seem 'OMG HE SAID HOMO' but if you practice context clues, I honestly meant homosexual. Everything is there, I know I don't make it easy for you to admit your first suspicion was wrong, but its kind of hard when the admin sicks his attack dogs on ya. And LOL Dean, I didn't get it until RLY just reposted that. That was a good one indeed.
Handyman sometimes makes an ass of himself on here, but I think this particular episode has been blown out of proportion. Dude made a clearly lame joke, but he's not trying to convey any bigoted comments and then covering his ass by calling it a joke.
Thankyou...and I might add that the video was done like 2 months ago, and posting was more like a 'me too' than a joke, though if you know my bro the song was about and you know me, you found it quite funny.
Freedom of speech; only when the higher power likes what you are saying. Edit: I do think people need to lighten up and stop being so emotional over stuff like this. Yeah, people should be dealt with that are racists, gay bashers, etc, but a lot of the stuff people are getting worked up about isn't worth it. Ok, so Handyman thinks homosexual behavior is wrong. I think religion is wrong. I don't think anyone here with those beliefs are intent on hurting individuals who fall into either category. Can't we all just coexist?