We Care What You Think

Discussion in 'Feedback & FAQ' started by Derek, Sep 3, 2003.

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    Terry

    Terry Yeah, but I wish you were my shadow. LPA Super Member

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    I don't really wanna write a big ol' paragraph either.

    I still like LPA a whole lot, it's just that I'm scared of the staff. They act all adult-ish and are cracking down on members sometimes. But I guess it's only when some members deserve it.

    I'm still scared of the staff, just not a whole lot now.

    Go LPA!







    ...:)
     
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    Alexis

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    Ok, I just thought of something else. Last thing, I promise :p

    One thing that bothers a few people that I know is that sometimes when a topic gets closed, or somebody double-posts or whatever, the mod closing it has something b!tchy to say along with it. Again, maybe if the person had read the rules thoroughly they wouln't have posted a pointless topic or whatever, but I think maybe it would be better if the mod closing the topic would just be like "hey, there's another topic like this" or something to that effect. Usually you guys do, which is awesome but I know that sometimes the person closing it has a snipey or biting remark to go with it. It's not the end of the world when people post pointless topics or double-post, we're all human and you wouldn't have much of a job as a moderator if members didn't make a few mistakes every once in a while. Besides, it takes maybe 2 seconds out of your life to close it so why be so angry? I can see if the person keeps on breaking the same rules over and over again, then it's just annoying, but I think one-time offenders deserve just as much respect as any other member should.

    I guess this is how I can sort of see Elie's point of view about glorified staff members.

    other than that, LPA rocks. </my two cents>
     
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    Omar

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    people are afraid of me? i havent even warned anybody in months :lol:
     
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    elie

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    We don't try to make it seem like we're better than you, and some people have the wrong impression. But there has to be a little distance between Staff and Members. If there wasn't, the forums would go wild and everyone would be breaking rules and not listening to staff when we ask them not to say anything. That's from a respect type of view. As for opinions on matters, of course we're not always right, and of course what we say doesn't mean anything more or isn't valued higher than what the members say. We don't go into threads knowing what we say is right and that no one can disagree with us.

    As for warning you, we expect a certain level of respect. We don't want our intelligence insulted by people. You can call me sensitive or whatever, but don't insult me. We need to maintain the respect or all hell will break loose. If I've lost your respect by warning you, then I guess it's a personal thing for getting warned. I used my best judgement and you used yours, but I don't stalk you around the forums waiting for you to slip up, that'd be a waste of my time. Thanks for your input. :) [/b][/quote]
    I really could care less about how many warnings I have. They're just tallies for you guys to keep us in track and after 3, get us out of here. But "insulting" intelligence should be something between each other, not an act of the forum. By that I mean, if something insulted you, say that. I just feel funny when that's said AND I get a warning.

    Plus, who's getting insulted actually? Can I submit an idea to create a rule for "Whoever insults Elie, get's a warning." ? Often times, i'm insulted (in essence, it's my intelligence as well) and it's waved off as "simple discussion" and debating. But when a member makes a point against another (or if you want me to get straight to the point, the ADMIN.), we get charged for "INSULTING YOUR INTELLIGENCE". Insulting is not a good thing, but it's also common place in a discussion forum.

    "Screw you and your opinion, Britney rocks" is "idiotic", and should get a warning. But making such a good point that the original point is contradicted shouldn't result in a warning. I may not be speaking on behalf of me, but others who get warned and threads closed. When you're at a discussion forum, you "discuss", therefore you have to approve/disprove other's statements. So if your statements is disproved, it doesn't mean we're nessecarily "insulting" someone, it means we're taking part of the discussion. But when our right to do that is taken away, or limited, or feared, what's the point of discussing, posting, or even, telling our friends about this place?

    BTW. I am sour that I was disrespected many times. I will not lie about it. Especially when I was regarded to as being "disloyal" to this forum by a certain someone, because I wasn't favoring a certain situation. If that's not "insulting", then I don't know what is. I'm glad to take time to be a part of things I love, but when the opposite occurs, there's no use in wasting time....

    - Elie
     
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    Derek

    Derek LPAssociation.com Administrator LPA Administrator

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    See Elie, thats the kind of stuff we wanna see. If someone has a huge problem with the way we work we want to know if they do so we can evaluate the way work about things.

    Don't be afraid to tell us we're too strict. It's a feeling that we were, that made me create this post in the first place.
     
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    Nikki

    Nikki I have no idea what is going on LPA Super Member

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    Aye. I's good to see people saying what they think.

    Each one of these comments will give us ways to change the way we act and hopefully become a better site :)

    I admit, I have let some personal things get in the way of the boards, so I apologise to any member I may (or may not have) annoyed in the past >_>

    You see, my time here is slowly running out. Soon I'll be in university and all the sort of thing, therefore, me coming on here will be alot rarer, so I want to make the best of it - you lot are the key </cheesy :p>

    So yeah, thanks again, we all really appreciate it :)

    (Especially you, Elie. You've really hit the spot with that >_>)
     
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    whenthisbegan

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    I don't mind it here. I actually kind of like it. You guys do a good job with your mod skills and all that jazz. My only problem was banned and I'm feeling a lot better about that. I don't have a big long speech to say, so I'll just end with saying Good Job. :)
     
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    elie

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    Who was banned that has enlightened your experience so much?
     
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    whenthisbegan

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    I'm not saying because I don't want to get into any like, trouble or cause problems.
     
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    elie

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    Well, whatever. Bannage being enlightenment, that's great. Forget I mentioned anything then.
     
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    Derek

    Derek LPAssociation.com Administrator LPA Administrator

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    Well, whatever. Bannage being enlightenment, that's great. Forget I mentioned anything then. [/b][/quote]
    Elie, are you angry Jawknee was banned because if you are, then I'm sorry. Many people don't know that we let him back on 1-Strike Policy. That soon became extended to at least 10 strikes.

    We did receive several complaints about Jawknee's behavior from various members, but instead of warning,we approached him several times about the way he was acting and hoped that our small talks with him would fix the problem. They didn't. Whether its the way he was or not, he sometimes responded a little rudely to some members who didn't deserve that sort of treatment. We had to bite our lip several times when we should've really done our job and warned him on the spot. After he publicy insulted Mark and Will we decided there's no way we can hold back anymore and we decided to give him his second warning.

    This set something off in him which made him decide to quit our site because he knew the 'first time he slipped up' he was going to be gone. That was in no way true, we passed on several opportunities to warn him for the sake of being friendly, so why would we be anymore 'trigger-happy' then we were before? There's many members with two warnings on this site, but it doesn't mean we're breathing down their necks waiting for them to screw up.

    Yes I did make this thread because a few people called us too strict but as for Radical Dreamer's comment that we are "lax compared to the LPMB" I don't think thats anywhere near true, and I'm sorry. We aren't anywhere near as trigger-happy as the mods over there and we don't let teeny boppers run wild.

    We'll try to be more polite to everyone in the future, but don't hold a banning against us when we infact gave Jawknee well over 10 chances when we should've done our job and warned him each time he belittled a member as we did let him back after we banned him once, which is against our policies to the fullest.

    I'm sorry to anyone we offended by banning Jawknee, but we gave him more then his fair share of chances to be more polite to some members. Especially staff. He seemed to have real problems with two staff members in particular, and it was all out of spite. It was his fault he got warned but he didn't want to admit it so he launched a vendetta against them.

    Jawknee's my best friend, and trust me..it was weird to get rid of him, but he also seems to be the source for a lot of stress on these forums and I already feel the site is more peaceful without him here. I'm sorry.
     
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    Andrea

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    I was wondering how/why Jawknee got banned. Thanks for clearing that up, Derek.
     
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    Derek

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    He got banned because he was basically flaming the LPA behind our backs and we didn't need someone who we were gracious enough to let back, giving us crap.
     
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    elie

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    My only beef is that, yeah, maybe Jonny shouldn't have done some of the things he's done, but i've seen worse done by people in more respectible positions. If he's banned, he's banned so be it. Peaceful? That doesn't occur from one person. But whatever, if that's in the best interest to remove the most "Controversial" members, than so be it. Remove them, and it's done. I think you got the input from the people who had beef with the staff. If stuff will be done, it either has been done or will not be done period. I'd like to thank Derek for caring what we think. I'd like to thank Kat for being a very amazing moderator with such a high level of maturity and kindness it hurts, ;) I'd like to thank Alex, man, you are a talented guy, and you have a very bright future, best of luck to you. Omar, you one crazy mofo dawg! Haha, keep up the good image work. Peace out.
     
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    Alexis

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    *sees that wedding topic is locked*

    Um, I had no idea we weren't supposed to discuss bandmembers' personal life. Is it under the rules? I didn't see it last time I read them. They're celebrites -- and we are their fans. And a wedding isn't like a negative or hugely personal topic anyways. Everybody was well-wishing Brad.

    I'm sure however, it was a lovely powerful feeling to say

    "locked."
     
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    Hybrid Soldier

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    please lets not start another again. well i think lpa is the best. its like a home to me, without it, im lost................
     
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    Alexis

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    that's true -- I'm sorry I said anything....
     
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    Nikki

    Nikki I have no idea what is going on LPA Super Member

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    I do have to say that Alexis is right. Although members know for a fact the talk about the band's personal life isn't allowed, we didn't put in the rules. These things need to be stated in pclear black and white. I mean, not everyone here is actually a member of the LPMB or the LPUMB or whatever else there may be, so they might not know what we're talking about.

    Also, we're not making a very good impression if we are fighting like this. So my advice to everyone (including myself) is just to belt up. What's done is done and cannot be changed, we can only improve from it and that's what we're aiming to do.

    Elie, thanks for what you said, it really means a lot to me to be appreciated >_>;
     
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    Mark

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    you're right, we neglected to put it in the rules because we haven't been faced with something like this before. hybrid soldier won't be warned because he didn't know. but upon discussing it we decided that personal live talk shouldn't be permitted just like the LPMB, LPUMB and LPSTMB all disallow. Sorry guys, we should've thought of this ebfore.

    And don't be afraid to say critical stuff, Alexis. You can't be warned unless you flame and we encourage constructive criticism, thank you.

    Kat: You mean "don't be afraid," Mark. D o n ' t ;p *edits*
    This post has been edited by Kat

    Edit by Mark: Stop making me feel dumb, Kat! :( :lol:
    This post has been edited by LPFAN05

    Edit by Kat: Sorry! *hugs :D*
    blah blah, something about Kat...blah blah
     
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    Derek

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    Amen.
     

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