Like anyone else has to try to make her look bad. I hope Glifford pulls through if she actually is still alive.
As far as I know it was her aide who has died, which lead to some confusion. She's still alive, but in very critical condition. This came from the hospital, and the President. We can only hope that she makes it.
Im not for so much as stopping for so much as following all the leads. She might have been shot by right wingers, she could have been also shot by a anti-semetic bigot. Or by a Muslim terrorist, like what happened at that Texas camp. Thank goodness she's alive so far. Here's hoping that she can pull through. At least for the time being, yes. Here's the thing, if you have a very large audience that you have a large influence over, you need to watch what you say, even if it may be counterintuitive for you to do so. Because your supporters may take your rhetoric as gospel. Sarah Palin will get fingers pointed at for the time being not just having a little picture with crosshairs on it, but for her entire rhetoric style of fear mongering and whipping up a base of supporters who have high running emotions and no emphasis on keeping a cool head at the same time. It's like the scenario that people ask "If you could go back in time, would you kill Hitler?" Hitler was just one dictator that arose from the social conditions of his time. Kill him, and just another dictator might as well have taken his place. If this killer was caught before he shot anyone, there may be more killers out there with this mentality, and hencefourth she may have been shot by another person. It is reasonable then to look for the source of these emotions and nip it in the bud, and in this case it's people like Sarah Palin and right wing media personalities like Glenn Beck who like to dress up paranoia and such without regard for the rules of logical argument. Pointing the finger at these people sounds justified to me. They need to be held accountable for their rhetoric.
As a liberal Jew who's had experience with both, I can tell you that there isn't a difference between the two. Not all right wingers are anti-Semitic bigots, but I have not come across an anti-Semitic bigot who wasn't a right wing nutjob.
Let's blame the politicians for not saying outright, "We don't mean take a stand as in kill these people.", and completely ignore the fact that, maybe, the blame lies in these idiots that think Sarah Palin or Glenn Beck want these members of the opposing party murdered and lynched. It takes a special kind of moron to come to that conclusion. No one is at fault here but the gunman himself.
I really didn't want to continue this as evidenced a page back, but while we're at it...it takes a special type of politician and media personality to take advantage of the fears and ideologies of these "special kinds of morons" and manipulate them to follow their lopsided political agendas. Whatever way you spin it, it's been clear for ages that these type of people exist out there (they're referred to as the 'lunatic fringe') and yet these people keep pandering to them, and feeding into the deep seated paranoia that these loons have about their country. Sarah Palin told people to "take a stand" and later named the same people in an ad calling them "the prescription" and asking their supporters to provide "the cure". Whatever way you spin it, the constant fear-mongering and lies that these people spread to their constituents...along with the negative imagery of gun sights in ads (naming one of the recently attacked as a target) is irresponsibly guiding people towards illogical conclusions and is to blame for this sort of behavior. Even if it didn't create this situation, it very well could down the road. It's reprehensible and unacceptable in today's society.
Considering the wound and force of the shot (point blank), that's absolutely incredible. She's an inspiration.
It goes to show you that you can't believe anything the media says until someone directly involved (in this case the doctor) speaks out. I wish I could change the thread title, haha. But regardless, it's still a horrendous crime and in the coming days, there will be all sorts of rumors/conspiracies getting out there, I'm sure.
Having viewed this guy's YouTube account and videos, all discussion of political motivation should stop right now. This man is mentally ill, as a Psychology major I'm very sure he's manic, and needs to be on medication. He talks about mind control and one of his videos depicts a new letter he is adding to the alphabet because we are in control of grammar, if we are literate. He is not sane. How people like this can get their hands on guns is beyond me.
Is it this guy? http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10#p/u/2/PnNx0WThoF0 Got that from a rumor. Confirmation would help a lot. And this guy is a nut. Not the nuttiest I've seen on youtube though, which scares me.
That in no way rules out political motivation. A guy can be a crazy person and still act based on political beliefs.
In the videos, he spouts off on some general anti-government non-sense. So I guess what I mean't to say is that it has nothing to do with political parties. Though I still kind of disagree. If someone is crazy, their illness is their prime motivation.
At that point, however, they would be really skewed versions of those political beliefs that aren't held by even a significant minority. The clarify: his line of reasoning isn't consistent with the normal right wing fringe. If you call that reasoning.
In fairness though, don't you have to be crazy to commit an act like this though? I hate certain people, and certain things...but I'd never kill someone over it. You have to be a mentally ill person to do this.
True enough, but again just by viewing the way this man writes, the disjointed rambling and grandiose delusions going through his mind, I almost guarantee he has a particular kind of mental illness that is treatable. And had he been being treated, this tragedy may not have had to happen.
Unfortunately, no. Abortion Dr. George Tiller, one of the only doctors performing late term abortions on women whose lives were in danger, and then mocked by O'Rielly in over 20 episodes on Fox News... was eventually murdered by an activist while he was in church. Some 'pro-life' activists went as far as celebrating this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Tiller