This Place Is So Corrupted

Bad use of the word selfish by Fiona, and then there are others who would claim that thinking of ones self is a virtue, but that's not what's relevant here.


My honest observation tells me this:
There seems to be this unspeakable rift between the staff and the "common" members. Whether it's the air of position that the admins have, or the false assumption that there is such an air by a lot of common members (maybe some of both) it seems to create nothing but bad vibes. When a decision is made such as the one regarding Casey, the admins, of course, are going to be brought under fire, so to speak. They need to stand by their decision and give proper justification for doing so. It seems when the staff bands together, a lot of people interpret it as them teaming up on the members not in the staff. Remember that they are only trying to explain their actions. Other members have a right to question these decisions, and voice whatever suggestions they have to the process that goes into banning a member, or warning one. When the hasty or unjust decision is made manifested, it's also the staff's responsibility to accept what they have done subpar and what they could have done better. But when the rules are spelled out for you in black and white, it makes it hard to make a case. Casey, from his quips, seems to acknowledge and accept responsibility for his actions, and that's very honorable of him. Again, I think the reason for most of this conflict is this unspeakable rift that seems to exist between the staff and the average member. Remember that they are just like you, but with more decisions to make that affect the wellbeing of the board. That is a responsibility that they usually handle well. But you have your right to make your voice heard when you think they aren't handling it well, as long as it's done in a respectful way, and you've shown that YOU have proper justification for your arguments.


Bah, that's my piece.

 

I've just got an idea.
Make a poll [vote only mode, no replies allowed] asking what you think should happen with Casey. Options would be: 1) Keep him banned permenately. 2) Keep him banned, but only temporarily. 3) He deserves to be unbanned immediately. 4) No opinion / I don't care

Should I make it? Of course, this wouldn't replace an admin's decision, but it's what us, the members, think should happen to Casey.
Like I said, It would be made voting only so the topic wouldn't get out of hand leading it to be completely locked.

 

I knew you'd catch that. You bring up a good point, Tom.

 

An admin's choice should be accepted. I have faith that they have and will continue to make the right decision.

 

I disagree with that sentance...yes, it's ultimatly up to the admins, but I think that threads like this are good because it gets everything out in the open, instead of people letting things build up, and it's usually disagreeing with the actions of a mod or admin that gets these things started.


I more or less agree with Link, as well. As for the rift between admin and regular members, well I guess both sides are at fault.

Basically this just comes back to the final point I made in my responce to Derek's first post in the thread, so I won't elaborate...but I think that there is a definite feeling sometimes that you can't openly disagree with an admin without either being slapped down or getting a "You don't know how hard it is" lecture.

 

Ok, so my idea wasn't a good one.
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Any chance of reopening Random Thoughts? Seems like this whole dispute has died down now.

 

Just so you know, I don't know you personally, and it is very difficult to detect sarcasm in plain text. So, again, shove it. [/b][/quote]
holy sh*t!! i leave to go watch the super bowl. and come back to find that a long time member has been banned. the thread "random thoughts 4" has been closed.... . i mean holy fuck....talk about things happening in the blink of an eye



will too....?

 

^ agrre with the blink of an eye thing. I mean, I know about Casey, but yeah-what's with Will?

 

Want my brief, honest opinion of this site? It's like high school. Lots of fun stuff happens here and people come here becausetheir friends are here and we get info and stuff before any other LP sites sometimes. I like the site, just like I like my high school. But I can't stand the way either of them are run. For one there's always power-hungry corrupt people in any hierarchy, and second, all the drama that occurs here or at high school is over the STUPIDEST shit! Hell I've seen Will leave 3 times after something dumb happened, because people wouldnt leave him alone. A very childish move in my opinion, running away solves nothing, it just makes you look like a whiny bitch. Will reminds me of Judge Hathorne in The Crucible when Reverend Parris is pleading to postpone the hangings of the innocent people and the stoic judge simply says "There will be no postponement." = "No exceptions." When clearly the guy needs to learn to take a fucking joke. If we lived under the way he preaches there'd be shitloads of dead people around just because of all the joking comments people make to each other. And not pertaining to the topic, not all these "teenies" are people who as you would put it, "care about the band only for their looks." My God, you can be a devoted fan and still think someone's attractive. Go on and ban people for saying so and so is sexy or whatever, but don't label everyone who does as a teenie who cares nothing about the music. That's called snapshot judgement. It's the same thing as calling someone a name because of how they look or dress. It's not right.

And FYI, you all need to get a fucking clue how copyright laws work. Stop being so paranoid about people posting mp3 links. Like especially the other day someone found what might have been a previously unheard demo and you just deleted the link because it was "illegal." Get a clue, you can't copyright something that's not released for profit. Sure the song was fake but whatever. Stop being paranoid.

Yeah, k, I'm gonna get banned, I don't even care anymore. I've tried my best to support this site through everything, because I actually found this site to be very resourceful and reliable. Hell me and Derek were talking about me helping update some sections of the site and stuff because I'm knowledgeable enough to do so. But screw that, I deal with enough drama offline, I don't wanna have to see it every time I come on here.

Put all this together with the fact that the Eagles lost, and yeah, I'm not too happy. I apologize to the other staff members, most of you are great people. And Will, I've talked to you before, you aren't a bad guy, just seriously, grow up a little man.

Just a note, if I do get banned, I will register a new account. I won't post anymore, because then I'd just get in an endless cycle of making new accounts. I'll just come here to see what's up in LP world, because that's what I actually give a shit about, and you guys are a great source for it. But I'm done with this crap, have a nice day.

[/fed up kid putting a cap on his bad day]

One quick edit before I'm off for the night, I never paid much attention to whatever actions Casey made in the past, so if he was in fact an asshole to other people all the time then meh, whatever. I'm still not a fan of how this place works, which is a shame because the LP information and stuff this site has is often found here before anywhere else, and I actually like most of the people here. Doesn't take a lot to bring down a forum though, especially when it starts at the top of the hierarchy.

 

An admin's choice should be accepted. I have faith that they have and will continue to make the right decision. [/b][/quote]
Accepted, perhaps, but not questioned?

 

true -_-


whoah tasta!

 

yeah. true that

 

If I recall correctly, some fansites did in fact link to material demo or not and they were hit with something from the label or something to remove it or have their domain taken down or something and a lot of domains were taken down.

I don't think we're "missing the fucking clue." I think we're playing it safe. If it's in fact something, spread it by word of mouth, but don't risk the LPA of getting in trouble.

Bottom line. Some of us have been here for a long, long, time, I have been here for about two years if I remember correctly and in my time here, I have never broken a rule. If I can do it, as crazy of a kid as I were long ago, why can't any other member?

I haven't really seen much "power hungry" antics as of recently. But then again, that means I'm "blind," right? In any event, I were trying to think back to anything the staff has done recently that could cause such dislike, but I don't see much. Now the reasoning I have in defense of Will is Will is trying to change for the better, but yet people do not give him the chance and time and end up getting on him the first time he steps out of line thus shoving him back into negativity. You cannot do that to a person you expect something from. You do not rush someone like that, especially when it comes to a personallity trait.

The thing with teenie-like situations. The LPA is intollerant to ANY actions of such. You can discuss the band WITHOUT including their looks. I could talk about a band with a "hot" female lead singer, but if I discuss things about them, I do not believe I need to be adding in my two cents about how hot they are in the discussion. If talking about a band's looks is so important, you can go to the LPMB where they don't care what you do while looking at the band's photos.

I tried to keep myself out of this, but to tell you the truth, it's not easy seeing you guys belittle the staff in general, and even if you exclude some of us as we try to do our job, it still doesn't make sense sometimes. People say myself and a few others do such a good job moderating, if this is true, why do NONE of you ever PM me with your problems? If you can't get through to an Admin, do you think the LPA team are just guys with a different tag under their name? No, we're part of the staff, too.

Bottom line, even as much as we have flaws, we will always have flaws, there is no pure perfection, however that's where compromise comes, but with compromise, it takes a 50-50. You can't suggest and expect and expect that you will not have to lift a finger for it to happen. The least you could do is wait for your suggestion to be considered, thought out and decided.

Prime example: Mark asked you guys to hold off on Casey's warning as we were reviewing it, but some of you failed to compromise and continued to suggest things when we already said we were looking into it. Another example is we asked you to calm down when in this thread and a few of you continued to add fuel to the fire, so with that said, we need some compromise here.

If it's anything that you take from this, take this: If you feel no one on the staff is willing to listen to your problems, you best never forget us, the staff you believe to do their job "good." If you can't get to those who "do not do their job good," then why bother? Come to those who you feel could help you instead of trying once, getting nothing and whining about it.

I don't mean to sound rude, but you have to remember that. You have to remember that not all of us are the same and you can't give up just because you have a hard time once. Enough of the half-ass complaining and come to those you know will listen, and if you're going to tell me none of us take to what you say with any consideration, then that means it's a contradiction to saying we do our jobs well.

I, on my part try to make you all feel good, and it pains me to see that my best is not good enough, so please, try to compromise with us, or at least me. Sieze opportunities and that doesn't mean to point out our flaws.

 

Remember mods and members alike, in the end this is just an online forum . Don't take yourselves too seriously.

 

JESUS! Everytime when im away this shit happens!


Someone should call me when this happens I'll just type my thoughts when it happens again, because everythink i thought has been typed

 

PMSLMAO.

Quick summary of what happened:
Casey got banned due to a death threat to Branden in teh Random Thoughts topic and Will banned himself due to an argument in the Staff Room.

 

You guys should stop being so fucking emo. Casey got banned. Deal with it. Yes we are going to miss him but theres nothing we can do, lifes not fair. If tommorow Casey makes a threat to a school friend and he gets expelled, are you going to go to the princible and demand a change of rules? Fuck no. So why do it here?

 

I'd argue a review of the decision made. It can easily be argued as he wasn't being serious and if he was serious [which I doubt he would be], he wouldn't end up doing it.

 

PMSLMAO.

Quick summary of what happened:
Casey got banned due to a death threat to Branden in teh Random Thoughts topic and Will banned himself due to an argument in the Staff Room. [/b][/quote]
...wow.
I missed everything too, I know Casey got banned but Will banned himself!

I still think this place is great but come on, no one is perfect, people make mistakes and they learn from them the hard way so why ban?
If he didn't mean it then why take it seriously, the seriousness(sp?) of the matter never really sunk in until now... if people get banned for joking with friends then I wonder what's next.

All I had to say.

What's PMSLMAO?