The Smack Debate

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    Yeah a good whooping on the behind is good for a kid,out of love. Anywhere else or anything out of anger is completely wrong and out of line.
     
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    But what draws the line out of doing it out of love and doing it because you're simply frustrated at the kid?
     
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    Because children are younger and at a stage where they're still developing physically and mentally, so the things they do and the consequences are key and are more likely to have a lasting impression. That's why it's different.

    Yeah but that's not what's being said there. The point is more like

    You spank your kid > you start treating them like a stress toy
    is the same as saying
    You kiss your kid > you're going to start sexually abusing them

    I don't think it's the only way of disciplining children either.

    Well, there's doing it out of love and there's being frustrated at the kid, and the line is in between. :p
     
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    Topic reminds me of this joke.
    [video=youtube;Nn5jlrxcpkI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nn5jlrxcpkI[/video]
     
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    That's in your heart? You know if your disciplining your child, or if your taking out your anger.
     
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    I don't have the entire list, but a few would be..

    What are they doing - Is it that they dumped out the puzzlebox onto the floor again and you're smackign them hoping to teach them a lesson? Or is it the same senario, but you're REALLY frustrated and angry at that.

    What amount are you delivering it/intensity? Are you smacking them hard with your lip bit, and angered-faced and with some seriously hard hits for their age? Or are you giving them a good a stern face and a smack that'd get their hand slightly red? Either way, its the tone of voice and how intense you smack that determines.

    TheHandyman has it right. Though introspection is a poor measurment tool, honest introspection with the assumption of "Have I done too much/wrong?" will likely help you reflect accurately.
     
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    It is comes to the question is, if you're in the habit of smacking your kid, when is the time that you inflict serious damage to the kid? It may not be intended, but smack a kid hard enough and it can have serious repercussions. If it's a smack on the butt - I've heard of cases where the parent's actually damaged the tailbone accidentally all in the name of discipline - or if it's a clip over the ear - again, serious cerebral damage can be done accidentally.

    I know kids learn on repetitiveness and I know how easy it is to snap at a kid - but what gives you the right as a parent to make your child feel inferior in the first place? I was raised on the belief that I respect my mother - not through being smacked but through trial and error and that no matter what happened, I was never inferior to her as a human being. Smacking creates this fear in a child, an inferiority.
     
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    Children are inferior. Theyre brains and bodies are not developed, henxe why the need an authority to discipline. Children are to be respected, yes, and never abused any way. But they need to know discipline, and right from wrong.
     
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    If you have anything to suggest a trend of people accidentally causing severe injuries their children then fine. Until then, I think if you know your own strength and the fact that it's a kid you're doing it to and not Joe Calzaghe the likelihood of it is still not that high.

    And again, I don't see anything to say that relatively mild punishments like spanking are automatically going to cause an inferiority complex. I mean, the couple of generations previous to mine would routinely have worse than that done to them and by that logic they'd be chock full of personality flaws and low self-esteem. I don't really see that.
     
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    Pretty much all of America is like that. Of course, it could be from anything really, not just spanking lol. But bad parenting in general has fucked a lot of people up. Then those kids turn into bullies or social loners. Those bullies ruin other kids' lives. Then the loners and bullies grow up and might become child molesters, alcoholics, druggies, or all of the above. Then they'll have kids and bring them up the same way they were and the cycle continues, but with a lot more people affected along the way. It's basically like a virus taking over America.
     
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    I can't really talk for the Americans as I haven't lived their social day-to-day lives in an American family, I'm going of what I have experienced. I know for a fact that back in the ol' days of punishment, my Uncle took my Grandfather's car without asking and when he got back he got slapped around with the hard end of his belt. But yet again, that's my Uncle in his teenage years. But yes I do agree with a majority of this statement.
     
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    Fixed.

    This.
     
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    Personally, I love a smacked bottom.
     

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