The Catalyst Out Now!

I was thinking maybe that, but it doesn't have the little video icon there... Of course they could've forgotten to put it.
If it's not video though, I'm pretty clueless as to what it could be. The title would suggest maybe the whole album in one track, but that would be kinda pointless...

 

Mark = epic win. Enough said.

 

Don't hold a candle lit yet, he did say there was rap in this album. And with the instrumental being displayed in TC, there's pure rawness coming out.

Ehhhhh did you check the back of the Album cover?
"PRODUCED BY MIKE SHINODA" and that whole album has Mike and Hahn all over the place.

Edit: Also if you hear all the "intermission" songs, they are all addressing Mike. If anything the artist provided their vocals.

 

Excuse me? I'M the snob? Wow.

 

A year from now, I think we're going to look back at TLTGYA and The Catalyst and find them similar in terms of their roles in the album. I love TLTGYA to death. However, when I'm just picking random LP songs to listen to, I never chose Little Things. Although, when I play M2M as a whole, I get pumped for it to turn on. It just finishes the album off with a masterpiece. TC will be the same way IMO. I will enjoy it as much as any LP song when I listen to the 13 songs before it but I probably won't play it on it's own.

Cheesy metaphor to describe what I'm saying: TLTGA/The Catalyst are the crusts of the pizza, the best part. But you don't just eat the crust and throw away the rest of the pizza. All the other songs on the album are bites of the pizza. When I don't have enough time to eat the whole pizza, I take a few bites. It would be weird to just eat the crust. It would taste bland without the cheesy goodness that would be in your mouth if you at the pizza the right way.


That's why I don't play TLGYA on it's own. The only problem with the metaphor is that I don't the TC will be the best song, but it will sound so much better with the "cheese/toppings"

Note: Haha that was actually a pretty good metaphor despite it being cheesy. It might be my sig soon...

EDIT: Mark that was the greatest thing ever. Agree with Joe. Best post ever.

 

that's a very vague description of techno. Can you compare armin van buuren to a lady gaga song simply because they both have "elements of techno"? Course not and this is the same case for LP

 

Don't forget about In god we trust

 

I feel honoured my comment helped give rise to something this epic. Mark, you just made my 6 years on the LPA meaningful

 

Just to make it clear .. i am far from being religious..

but i do think its intersting why you highly doubt thats the sort of msg LP were going for.. they made political statements in M2M and as a band there at a stage were lyrically there more direct in what there wanting to get through ..

 

Seeing as the band comes from a wide array of religious beliefs, it's not hard to see.

 

I'm a long-time fan since about 2001 and near-decade long lurker and this is definitely already one of my favorite songs. So much that I've decided to finally join these boards!

 

I have no problem with change. As long as you keep your "entity". That is all I am debating. So far the "entity" is there(in this song), but this song still lacks raw lyrical power that was in Hybrid Theory and Meteora (even though it was a clone). While I understand it's been 10 years ago, Linkin Park has become the band of this decade, one that other bands have copied and probably have better their old style. If I had to go hand on hand in terms of lyrical power and rawness I'd give this title now to 30 Seconds To Mars (even though they do not have a rapper), and me as an LP fan refusseeeee to give the trophy to them. But from what i've seen around me in my area and just society itself it seems like they are the new "sound" , and the new "LP" just like it was 10 years ago.

There's no problem with change, but don't stray away too far from home. LP has just done that with their fanbase. If you guys like "this", that's totally fine. The problem is that they have not reinvented anything new. There's other bands out there that sound better at what LP is trying to achieve. If LP just stook to their formula and not allowed what reviewers have to say about their sound, things would be totally fine. Of course I am basing this so far on this song, even though this "teaser" as I see it gives me hope for the new album. I am hoping the raping in this album gives new future to LP. You cannot "remove" the rap out of Linkin Park and consider it "LINKIN PARK". Period. I don't care if it was 10 years ago, or if it was 50 years ago. Metallica is who they are with their solos. Megadeth is who they are with their lyrics and crazy guitar masturbation, Iron Maiden is who they are with their epic lyrics (that even in 2006 they were still able to produce a good album, it did not surpass the pass but atleast I can say "Hey they stook to their roots"), you can't take out rhythm sections out of Foo Fighters and call it "Foo Fighters", etc etc. Let's look at Eminem for example, so far homeslice failed in his last album. It sold like crazy but the fans were utterly disappointed. He comes back with "recovery" almost (when I say almost, i say 90% he nailed it! What killed him was the singing parts) but he outdid himself in this album by upping the bar from his old lyrical material and sound structure to awesomeness. When everyone said "Eminem has lost his fire" he came back and proved everyone wrong. SO my question is, why the fuck must "you" the fan conform to this change? This is totally about the fan, not about proving the masses wrong. Make ur damn epic music and make your stamp in history. Even in "numbers" if you look at sales, even with the new sound in Minutes to Midnight; it did not leave the mark Hybrid Theory / Meteora left. (and Meteora is a damn clone that's the sad part!). The average fan isn't going to conform to change.. when you go buy a car, you buy the car you want, and you hope the next one is better than the other one in terms of looks and power. If it does not, there's a bunch of other cars to look at that probably handle better, look better, and at least stick to their roots.

Hybrid Theory: Diamond
Meteora (clone): 4x Platinum
MTM: 2x Platinum

And don't give me the "times have changed" and the "internet has played a huge factor". Last time I recall, LP grew up with the internet.

 

That is exactly my point...they have never discussed religion in the past, especially not to this extent ... i find it funny how most people assume LP can change the way they sound musically but find it hard to believe or accept that they might have changed lyrically aswell.. they are grown men with families .. no longer ranting kids.. i believe the usage of " god " is a very broad term.. not singling out any religion .. but it wouldnt suprise me and shouldnt suprise anyone else that maybe LP have grown up in more ways then we think and that they are more then capable of writing a song of this manner..

 

After 19 plays of "The Catalyst", I like it a little more than I did 4 hours ago.

However the techno breakdown in the middle of the song (2:40 it starts), or the bridge I guess, really ruins the song for me. I absolutely DESPISE that part. I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. I hate it!

Honestly, the song would be much better without it IMHO. It's just a little annoying if you ask me.

On a positive note, I absolutely LOVE the "Lift me up, let me go" part of the song. It's my favorite part of the song, hands down! I like that part so much, I made a ringtone for it (anybody who wants the .mp3 ringtone, message me )

Totally stoked for the CD to come out! I wish it wasn't so far away

 

It's a just ok song.