Discussion in 'Serious Chat' started by $pvcxGhxztCasey, Jul 13, 2004.
you mean he was the Devil Worshipper kind.
yea, thats what i meant..thanks for clearing that up.
Yeah, the names are confusing. When people say Satanist, they automatically assume 'Devil Worshipper', when infact the Satanist religion is entirely different & opposite.
thats so random..but i know exactly what you mean. plus, it seems almost a fad to be satanic, just to be different for some people. thats what was going on with my other friends, my brother simply turned to wicca
That whole thing's just one giant opinion trying to be passed off as a fact. He has a few scientific facts in that giant rant, but it's nothing that undermines my faith, which seems to be the writers intent.
Of course the Bible isn't perfect. It was written by man. If it had been written by God, there would be no questions, no grey area, no if's, and's, or but's. But it wasn't, so all we're left with is speculation and opinion. And his idea of what is and what's not is no more correct than yours or mine.
Edit: What an imbecile:
“I am the Alpha and the Omega. I am the beginning and the end. I am the first and the last; beside me there is no other God”
He is the first? Let us define “first”, shall we? Here it is:
“[The one] Coming before all others in order or location”
So God came before all others? Where did he come from? Did someone make him? If so, who? Then would he not be the first?
And is he also the last?
“[The one] Being, leaving, or placed after all others.”
So God will be the last to leave? Where will he go? Will he die? I thought he was eternal? What will make him leave? Is he not omnipotent as The Bible claims? If so, why does he leave?"
According to what I believe, God didn't come from anything. He was ALWAYS there. He wasn't created. And being the last, as in, he's eternal. He's beyond time; when everything else has perished He will still exist. The writer is just putting words into the Bible's mouth (if you'll allow the expression). He's implying things that aren't even there. He quoted Webster's meaning of "first" and "last". Guess who that's written by? Errant humans.
His is science.
Therefore, he wins.
Mark is right. Religion only converts people into assholes.
are you saying I'm an #######?
I will murder you dead.
And they call Christians ignorant....
And they call Christians ignorant.... [/b][/quote]
Don't call me ignorant. You're the one who believes in a book that contradicts itself more than the news.
Don't call me ignorant. You're the one who believes in a book that contradicts itself more than the news. [/b][/quote]
Heh, did I strike a nerve? I believe in God, not just a book. And contrary to what you think, faith in God is logical. I've told you how before.
Heh, did I strike a nerve? I believe in God, not just a book. And contrary to what you think, faith in God is logical. I've told you how before. [/b][/quote]
Just because you think it's logical doesn't mean that it is.
Like I said before, religion was made up by man. It was made up, just like other stories. None of it is true in the slightest.
You don't know that as a fact. Were you there to see it made up? Can you tell me who made it up, and when? No, it's only what you think is true. Belief in God was divinely inspired. Straight down from God himself, not thought up in some persons head.
Yeah, okay. Is that why the Greeks and Romans had their own gods and goddesses? Why did all this so-called belief in "God" wait so long to come around? Why would "God" let these people, the Greeks and Romans, believe in these other gods and goddesses if, beside him, there are no other gods? Oh, I know why. Because he doesn't exist, and he was "invented" just like the Greek and Roman gods and goddesses to explain the things around the world. It's as simple as that. I feel sorry for you for not being able to see that.
Arguing about God in this thread ain't gonna' work.
Why? Look at the topic title. This topic was made to look at the things wrong in the bible, not to praise him. The LPA isn't against religions, but LOGIC, man, don't step into a thread that isn't praising "God" thinkin' you're gonna change views.
Yeah, we get it, you're a proud Christian, Link04, and yeah, we all have different views, but it's things like what you do here that give people like us, the athiests, satanist and what not a bad view on religion most of the time. We try to express something away from religion, and *WHAM*... Out comes the Christian firing squad knocking us down.
Yeah, some of us speak out against religion, and sometimes people force it on others, but in my experience, I've not seen it as much as Christians trying to shove the "You're wrong, and I'm right" story down my throat as much as others do.
We try to speak a seperate thing, and we're still gunned down. So not to make you feel odd, but lighten up, if you don't like it, just leave it be and let us have our own piece of mind instead of just trying to shut us or even the man who wrote the "Anti-Bible" article, himself, out.
anyone else notice my threads always generate this kind of debate?
Yeah, I agree.
I saw another religion conflict/debate arising after a few posts in this thread .
It's because we always get certain people who decide they need to preach that we're wrong.
Debates make things more interesting, and more often than not end in someone being warned or banned. Meh, all in the name of debate!
A lot of the times, though, people begin to take the debate way too serious.
If anyone remembers, we had to ban one member because he just went completely insane on people for not believing what he did... :chemist:.
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