The Anti-Bible

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  1. Casual D

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    You will be warned if you don't calm down, and stop being so antagonizing of other people who don't share your same beliefs. Of course some people don't agree with you, it's the point of a debate, if you don't like it then you shouldn't be debating.

    So either calm down, or be warned for antagonizing people.
     
  2. The Doctor

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    You have to consider it from our points of view. For the people that dont believe, some of the things that happen in the bible just seem so illogical that its unbelieveable. Most of these these things dont have any traces of proof, so what can we believe? And dont say we dont know what were talking about, because we do. Dont insult our intelligence.
     
  3. o0Bahamut

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    The bible is a historical book. It was witnessed by people. It was written down. If you dont believe it happened, then your not believing in history? That's like saying "Oh well I mean, the civil war, it was so bloody, I dont believe it happened." Even though it was written down. Listen, I'm calm now. I just got a little tense. But I'm just saying, I wish some people could please think a little bit before coming to conclusions.
     
  4. The Doctor

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    The things just arent logical though. Lets explain how the entire world gets repopulated after it was supposedly wiped out after the flood in Noah's Ark's story? It's just stories, thats all. Maybe occasional historical things, but mostly stories. Other things in history we have proof of, like the Civil War as you said.
     
  5. o0Bahamut

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    Well, I dont htink the whole world was wiped out by the flood. But there is one thing. If you haven't watched TV, they've supposedly found a giant ship high up in the mountains. I forget the location, I have to ask my parents again, they saw it. But they cant get near it for some reason. I forget the reason, I think it was either too hi in altitude, or like the helicopter would mess up. But I remember that they cant get to it for some reason. It could just be some ship up there, but still. It's very strange why a ship would be up so high and nobody can reach it.
     
  6. The Doctor

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    But you have to understand, the ship was made of wood. Wood decays, especially if it is at high altitudes. If it was there for thousands of years, theyd be lucky to find anything intact.
     
  7. o0Bahamut

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    Well then I'm not sure. I know they found a ship up there though. And it could be a miracle why it's not decayed completely. Also, another miracle was when a priests body never decayed and I think people can view it. I forget, but I think I remember it's not decayed still.
     
  8. The Doctor

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    The point is, the Bible is NOT historical. Like Will said, through time stories have been passed on, twisted, added on, and written down. Theres no physical proof to a lot of those stories, only word of mouth, which we all know is not always reliable.
     
  9. o0Bahamut

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    No it was historical. They weren't just stories suddenly made up one day. Everyone witnessed what happened. It was finally written down one day. The bible is not 100% accurate. But it does say things that had happened. I mean, if these were made up, they would be like Brer Possum and Brer Rabbit. Stories for kids. But they're not made up. I mean, there's even proof that things happened. Do you want me to say the proof?
     
  10. The Doctor

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    People witnessed it? Can you prove that? Where was it written that it was witnessed? Also, witnesses can stretch the truth. Thats like me going around and saying I traveled Europe for a year and stayed in Spain. Its not true, somewhat believeable, but I could have someone with me playing along. Thats all there is.
     
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    Yes, people were not stupid back then. The bible wasn't made 1000 years after it happened. I'm talking about the New Testament and Old Testament. Listen, it was a historical book that people witnessed. I am not sure but I think it was made by jesus's disciples. I have to find out from my parents. And even today, you see miracles happening. Yet people still dont believe in god when there is no logical explanation for stuff that happens.
     
  12. The Doctor

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    Again, I would like proof that there were actually people seeing these things and NOT making stuff up. You cant prove that.
     
  13. o0Bahamut

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    Ok, so your telling me. The Olympic games never happened? It was written down historicaly. But yet, nobody is around, hmmm I guess in your eyes, that never happened since there's nobody around from about 2000 years ago to tell you.

    Basically what your saying to me is " I want proof of everything that's happened on earth or I dont believe in it." or your telling me " I want proof of only this, I trust in everything else but this"
     
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    Reading your first post Bahamut... It's things like that that make me dislike religion so much... They get angered to the point of having to call us names no matter the circumstance... I mean we don't go to other religious forums and stuff and call them out and names... That was reaally inconsiderate. Anger or no anger, that was just really rude of you to down what we believe in like that.

    Control your anger from not on.

    Actually, come live in my world and then you can tell me I'm wrong, that was so offensive to me.. Knowing NOTHING of our pasts and you tell us we're wrong...

    ...whatever, think of us lower than you because we're not like you, but I would hate to be God and see my followers disapproving others for having their own opinion, but then again, hey, I'm wrong because I'm not a Christian... Psh, whatever.
     
  15. Todd

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    If the hypocracy police and hypocracy court of law existed, you'd be serving a life sentence for that post.

    You're so pissed off and enraged that us athiests think we're right, yet you think you and no one else is right. You're blinded by what you're thinking. It's wrong for us to think we're right but it's perfectly OK for you to think you're right? Bullshit.
     
  16. Mark

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    I see how people progressivley became more stupid over the years. :rolleyes:

    Miracles happen? People often tag things that make no sense to them as miracles. The fact that an event happened and that it makes no sense to a person doesn't not make it unexplicable. Medical conditions can be applied to pretty much everything. Hit me with something that's a "miracle" and I'll explain it. Chance happens. Miracles do not. It's simply a term that's poorly tagged onto certain events.

    There's no proof that Jesus lived. I could write an incredibly popular fictional book about a man named James Kansas which explained things that people didn't understand and in 2000 years from now, that story would be so completely twisted and miscontrued that it'd be nothing like it's predecessor.
     
  17. The Doctor

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    The Olympic games have proof. All the ancient stadiums built.

    And dont put words in my mouth. Im not saying that. Im saying that there is no real proof that these things happened and all of these things in the Bible are only by word of mouth. Its just like the internet. Not everything you read is true.
     
  18. o0Bahamut

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    Keaton, I was simply angry. I've calmed down. I was just really mad.

    Todd, I'm wondering why some of you people are thinking " Satan is good" and why some of you are thinking " There is no god, there's no explanation for why anything was created" I used blinded saying, to think a little more about what your saying. I mean just think about how anything was first created. From some gas in the universe that caused the big bang? (said in the article) Well then, where did that come from? People have there own beliefs, and I guess I wasn't respecting that. I'm sorry for not respecting it. I understand what you were saying now.

    Mark, there is proof. Haven't you seen the cloth from Jesus? With it bloodstained? and another one with his face imprinted on it? They were miracles. And the blood, dont say the carbon thing made it a fake. Because later I found it that they carbon dating thing was actually wrong, and they made an error.
     
  19. The Doctor

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    That cloth could be from any number of things! For all you know it couldve been some random guy that was sick and put the cloth on his face and coughed up blood. Does anyone have a blood sample of Jesus to compare? No.
     
  20. o0Bahamut

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    Do you realize how much blood was on that cloth? probably not with the post you just said.
     
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