It's a terrible tragedy without a doubt, but at least the Spanish people got rid of their president who committed troops to the war. Now all their troops are being pulled out of Iraq. Thank god, I hate to think other countries are still actually following Bush. This is bad, but it's not unexpected. It simply proves that bombs don't cure terrorism, and the U.S. hasn't accomplished anything in Iraq either through the war, or capturing Saddam.
i didnt know theyre moving the spanish troops out of iraq... i dunno what to think about it... i dont think it will change anything you know? except that spain wont be able to lay its hands on the oil thingie... im not a very good political expert...
The problem with Spain pulling their troops from Iraq though, is that now they've said "Okay, we can be bullied." And all that will do is bump the bombers confidence. I assume Spain had planned to pull their troops anyway, but announcing it now is just very, very bad timing. The whole situation is so ####ed. :wth:
The problem with Spain pulling their troops from Iraq though, is that now they've said "Okay, we can be bullied." And all that will do is bump the bombers confidence. I assume Spain had planned to pull their troops anyway, but announcing it now is just very, very bad timing. The whole situation is so ####ed. :wth: [/b][/quote] Um...not really. By pulling their troops the people are saying quite clearly that they want nothing to do with a war that should have never been fought. They're not allowing themselves to be bullied, they are doing they're best to get themselves out of the horrible situation that is Iraq. The fact that Spain was attacked proves that bombing innocent people does not prevent terrorism, it creates more terrorists. Now the terrorists have even more legitimate reasons to attack countries like Spain and the US --- we've bombed innocent people; their friends, families, children.. While I suppose in some sense it could boost their confidence, its really arbitrary. The terrorists don't just bomb random targets (say...like the US), that's why they bombed countries they believed wronged them in some way, hence Spain, because they 'supported' (although the people didn't, only the leader did) Bush's war. By pulling troops, most of the reasons for attacking Spain have been removed, and they will likely move on to another target.
last rumors what i have red was that al-qaida already has nuclear weapons and that 90% of their next operation to attack US is done
lol... well, maybe they have nukes, but judging from the intelligence on Iraq I seriously doubt it. Iraq didn't even have missiles that could reach the US, hell they could barely reach Israel. Maybe the Al-Quaeda has nukes, they're not too hard to get anymore I suppose, but I doubt it.
oh i just heared on the radio that a city near us they found a suspected pack...so the train traffic from here and the hague for a while
Well, no offense, but I don't take much heed in these rumors. Even if they do exist, its not worth getting worried about. If you live in fear all your life you'll never be happy, and it will convince you that you are justified in doing things that would otherwise be unconscionable. I just hope Bush doesn't see this as an excuse to rally the American people based on their fears to bomb another country.
If Austria wasn't a part of the war and showed no commitment or support for the Iraq war, then I don't think you should be scared.
If Austria wasn't a part of the war and showed no commitment or support for the Iraq war, then I don't think you should be scared. [/b][/quote] yeah i guess youre right... im just scared cos im half polish and i dont want anything happening to my grandparents or friends... it sucks. :wth:
i just remeberedacctually it wasnt a rumor it was the 2nd man of al-qaida who said it and it was in the newspapers 9/11 was also warned i thought....
i just remeberedacctually it wasnt a rumor it was the 2nd man of al-qaida who said it and it was in the newspapers 9/11 was also warned i thought.... [/b][/quote] lots of things that are in the newspapers aren't true...in case you were wondering. Also, the second man of them would likely say anything in order to get the American people to fear them. That's what they want. Really to go around printing all this stuff all the time serves only one purpose: make the american people afraid. If we're afraid of something, we'll agree to do whatever it takes to calm ourselves. Its a propaganda machine to alienate us from the terrorists and other people around the world. The first step of defining your enemy is alienating yourself from them. These aren't monsters, they're people, they attack for specific reasons, which we have ignored in the past and are coming back to haunt us. 9/11 was also warned, and Bush payed no attention to it. That's his fault, he takes the blame. I'm not saying that rumors shouldn't be noticed, I'm saying that the average american person should not get worked up over every single printed piece of 'evidence' that terrible things will happen.
My uncle died in that.. So anyone who doesn't take this seriously get a life. (not saying that you don't take it seriously) .. He was over there on buisness too..
That's sad . Those people are the best example of extreme anti-americanism (sp?), they take advantage of horrible events to make people belive everything is a conspiracy.
lots of things that are in the newspapers aren't true...in case you were wondering. Also, the second man of them would likely say anything in order to get the American people to fear them. That's what they want. Really to go around printing all this stuff all the time serves only one purpose: make the american people afraid. If we're afraid of something, we'll agree to do whatever it takes to calm ourselves. Its a propaganda machine to alienate us from the terrorists and other people around the world. The first step of defining your enemy is alienating yourself from them. These aren't monsters, they're people, they attack for specific reasons, which we have ignored in the past and are coming back to haunt us. 9/11 was also warned, and Bush payed no attention to it. That's his fault, he takes the blame. I'm not saying that rumors shouldn't be noticed, I'm saying that the average american person should not get worked up over every single printed piece of 'evidence' that terrible things will happen. [/b][/quote] yup true true true...
sorry to hear that, sam :wth: i hope its ok now. i mean obviously it isnt. well i dont think anyone is save right now. terrorism can attack anything and anybody.