Saddam Executed.

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    Casual D

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    I didn't like seeing someone dead and like..knowing they're dead. Creeped me out.
     
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    Yeah, and Santa exists ;)


    Edit: I din't watch the video, and I'm not planning to watch it ever. Why would anyone want to see someone being executed? Sick world, I tell you...
     
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    Omar, so you're saying that Bush deserves to die more than a man who directly ordered the mass killings of civilians? Give me a break.
     
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    Omar

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    No, it's called sarcasm. I am, and have always been, vehemently against the death penalty.

    And think before you speak please. The death toll in Iraq has already reached more than 3,000. Saddam was hanged for the killings of 128 people. Regardless of numbers, neither of these leaders are/were admirable. So, by your logic, if you are going to hang one, why not the other?
     
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    Bush never said "Oh hey, I'm going to kill you!"

    That's the difference.

    There was no draft initiated, so if you're playing that side, it was those peoples' free will.
    However, if you're playing the side of innocent civilians in Iraq? 1.) Not all of them were so innocent. 2.) Bush did not kill them. And if you're about to say "Well, Saddam never killed those people either he just gave the order." Allow me to cut you off at the pass. THIS IS WAR. Of course there will be casualties. Saddam was not at war with those people. I'm not saying "oh haha lol war means they all must die hahaha omgz." No. But people are going to die. That's just how it is.
     
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    I really, really don't want to offend you but you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about ;)
     
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    So, you're saying the difference between them is not in their actions, but rather in their words? Then you agree that their actions are one and the same? Wouldn't words, then, seem trivial if both are allowing men and women to needlessly die?

    I'd make an argument that actions speak louder than words, but that seems unecessary.

    N.B.: I'm not playing anyone's side other than my own. So many people make this mistake of choosing "sides", rather than forming an opinion for themselves.
     
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    Omar, it'd be so nice if you read the rest of a post before replying to it.
     
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    Do you honestly believe I read only the first two sentences and made a reply from that? For shame.

    Bottom line: this is a place for discussion, but our comments are turning it into a quarrel. I'm not going to challenge you on this anymore, because frankly, I can't understand what exactly your saying or trying to say, but I don't feel its coherent enough to elucidate your perspective. Your last sentence completely jumps into vague territory and tries to alleviate responsibility altogether (but from who, I don't know).

    I'm going to simplify my basic assertion below, in the hopes it will reach you successful. Please direct any further comments to my PM box.

    Both Saddam Hussein and George W. Bush have allowed the unnecessary deaths of many innocent men and women (although their relative innocence is besides the point). If you feel it just to hang Saddam Hussein, on the aforementioned grounds, then you need feel the same way concerning Bush. I am not saying Bush should be hanged. I'm simply stating that, if you intend to hold impartial politics, you must recognize both these men as promoters of death, who deserve equal punishment (wherever it may lie).

    Now if you only meant to say that seeing the video of a man's death didn't bother you, perhaps that's another matter altogether, and I won't dare comment on that.
     
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    1.) I am in no way quarrelling. I see this as no more than a discussion. I hold no hard feelings, I am just stating an opinion.
    2.) You mean to tell me that by going to war, Bush promoted death? So we should have executed every president who has ever declared war on another country since Saddam was executed? I'm not trying to ask these questions to sound smart in any sense of the word. I just honestly do not understand how that makes sense.
     
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    Some people, such as myself, feel their deaths were unnecessary. Death is, of course, always a payment in war, however, I'm not so sure I can classify this as a war, at least in the traditional sense of the word. I see this as more of an invasion, than two countries in opposition.

    My point, as stated in my original post, was that executing Saddam, particularly at that time, was a poor choice, and reflects badly on America since we held custody of him until his final moments. Bush and his regime promote death by allowing him to die (Saddam's lawyer made an appeal to an American judge in his final hours, which may have been wrongfully denied on its grounds). This sends a very scary proverbial message to other countries. Though we may have stopped one tyrant, we could easily be giving rise to another.
     
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    I don't support the death penalty, so no, we should not execute Saddam or Bush, but they should all be held responsible and receive equal punishment, and if that punishment happens to be execution, then yes, hang Bush and any other president who has declared war or is responsible for as many innocent deaths that these 2 are. I won't support their death, but one can't be an insane madman and the other a hero.
     
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    That's the most ridiculous statement I have ever heard.
     
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    Why? Has war EVER benefited anyone?
     
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    Well, I know I'm pretty glad that America isn't still under British rule... and that Hitler didn't win World War II.
     
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    In the past, yes.
     
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    If there was never war, chances are that Hitler would have never have come to power and who knows if America would have been under British rule, because who knows if Britain would have existed.
     
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    Your disdain for politics astounds me. Rather than list the reasons why war doesn't actually benefit anybody, instead, you just play the "What If?" game.

    War is natural.
     
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    if you don't fight war sometimes, you can really fuck your country over.
     
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    Fine, I'll concede that maybe wars like the American Revolution were useful. But the Iraq war serves no purpose, and leaders on both sides deserve the same punishment for the thousands of civilians they have killed.
     

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