There's never been a bigger difference in how much I liked a song on the first listen and how much I liked it later as there is with ALITS. What a freaking great track. First few times I heard it I was incredibly underwhelmed, now I can't get enough of it and GATS.
My feelings towards GATS have remained pretty much the same (it's a great song and one of the best on THP). I think I just killed my desire to listen to it by overplaying it in the long wait between it and the album.
Are you being patronizing or sarcastic? I'm not trying to say anything about Brad ripping anyone off. Just showing that the guitars Brad plays are modeled after Rory's Strat. Lot of people talk to me like I'm stupid here (not talking about you). I remember being a member in 2010 for the ATS release and one of the administrators, Joe, was basically telling me to shut up and talked down on me for no reason. I can't remember my name back then - I think it was tovhumanoid. People were then riding off that energy he was targeting at me; I don't know if they were agreeing because he's LPA staff or if they genuinely didn't like me and thought I was stupid. I remember it being either the day of the Catalyst performance at the VMAs, or at least the week of it. It's been 5-6 years so I don't remember the exact day. Every time I try to come back here and have a good time, I end up feeling like I don't enjoy it at all. It's not me being sensitive or overreacting, even if it seems like that. I just feel that I don't need to be spending my time and energy from my life to be looked at and talked to like I'm a troll or am somehow not on the same plateau as everyone else. Sorry that became a rant. I just think of that ATS period and that day every time I come here. You'd think that someone would've said something to an LPA administrator about disrespecting a community member, instead of riding on that negative energy. But that's long past. I try not to participate in internet culture more than I have to because of that.
I've felt the same way before with others fansites. I understand you. I remember that I couldn't discuss anything because They end up ignoring me
I'm going through the history of Linkin Park and I would like to ask a question to older fans. How did you reacted to Breaking The Habit? Since in those days LP used to have "heavy songs".
I was twelve when "Meteora" came out and I wasn't fazed by "Breaking The Habit" in the slightest. In fact, for a long time, it was my favourite song from the album. EDIT: Yeah, that was a blatant joke by TheZlajaZlo. I assume that TheZlajaZlo apologises for the misunderstanding. /late
Not trying to be rude or anything, but I'm not quite sure how you felt he was making fun of you from that. If anything he was making fun of Brad, his comment didn't refer to you in any shape or form. Again, not trying to be rude, but I've been on here for pretty much as long as you and I've yet to see any rudeness towards anyone who wasn't being completely obnoxious, ya shouldn't take these things so personally!
I know, they were just poking fun at Brad and the assumption of people in the guitar community who think he's only about power and barred chords. It just reminded me of a pretty shitty time I had on LPA back when ATS was coming out. I went off on a tangent which was uncalled for. I wasn't directing it at the poster as much as I was at the people of that shitty time that I mentioned. Again, it just reminded me of it, that's all. I know the poster had no ill intention on their part I don't know if we'll ever hear LP make a straight up romantic love song. They have a lot of songs about love, but almost all of them are about being in a dissipating relationship or feeling betrayed at some point.
This question doesn't really apply directly to me, because I started listening to LP in 2012, but I'll share my thoughts on the song anyways, and on Meteora as a whole. I always thought Breaking the Habit was one of the best, and one of the most unique, songs off Meteora. I thought pretty much any LP fan would like it, because I can't really see what's not to like, it has great, powerful vocals by Chester, highly relatable (or at least understandable) lyrics, and a really awesome, fast paced instrumental. The strings are also super awesome and really help the song. And to be honest, I don't know why Meteora gets so much hate around here. I know people often mention the lyrics, but I don't find them to be as "angsty" (man I hate that word) as people say. Somewhere I Belong I love so much, just because it sounds awesome! Sure the lyrics aren't that mature, but the instrumental sounds absolutely amazing, with those cool, cut-up and reversed guitar parts. Also, the play between Mike and Chester here is one of their best, with Chester singing over the rap verses and Mike rapping "erase all the pain 'till it's gone" over the chorus', and it is stuff like that which originally got me in to Linkin Park, their ability to make great use of two vocalists. Faint is just incredible, it is super fast and heavy, and it one of the most hype songs I know. Mike's rap verses are awesome, I love the chorus, and the bridge is the most epic screaming I've ever heard. This was the first song I ever heard with screaming, and it was just well done I quickly grew to love it. Numb is another awesome song, the lyrics may not be as mature, but they certainly are cohesive, and they really work. Chester's vocals do an awesome job in delivering them, and while Mike does very little (vocally) in this song, the "Caught in the undertow" parts certainly do add a nice touch. I really like the instrumental, it's another great one that really sells the song. I consider the previous four songs I mentioned to be the four best tracks off the album, mostly due to their uniqueness, though it is hard to put into words how I feel Faint is so unique compared to say, Lying from You or Figure 09, I guess it is just done so well that it stands out to me. Lying from You and Figure 09 are both good songs, and and both really stand out just because of the awesome play between Mike and Chester in the bridge. I particularly like the way Chester whispers "Never goes away" before the chorus', and then when that introduces the bridge it makes the song feel really tied together well. From the Inside and Easier to Run are both pretty good, I particularly like the atmosphere during the rap verses, they both feature kind of mellow raps, and it really stands out to be. The strings during Easier to Run's rap are awesome, and I love the lyrics of the rap. Also, From the Inside is probably the second best screaming Chester has ever done, right after Faint. Don't Stay is pretty forgettable, the bridge is kinda cool, other than that it doesn't have much going for it. And I consider Hit the Floor and Nobody's Listening to be the two worst songs off the album. The rap lyrics are somewhat decent in Hit the Floor, but I'd say overall, there shouldn't have been both songs on the record. Maybe one hip-hop focused song could have worked, but I just found both these songs seemed a lot worse than the rest of the album. The instrumentals were pretty bland compared to most of the other songs, and the chorus' felt like they had pretty little effort put in to them. tldr: Meteora may not be their best album, but I love it, and some of the tracks are amazing, if only the album was a bit more consistent.
Man, and you were doing so well with the paragraph breaks too Personally, I have never found cohesiveness and consistency to be an issue with LP. They've always nailed it, within their songs and albums, for better or worse. I even think that "Minutes To Midnight" flows perfectly, but I'm in the minority there. Yeah, see, these are things that you might see people pointing out in most of the songs throughout "Hybrid Theory" and "Meteora" - and, depending on who you talk to, maybe even a bunch from the later albums as well. EDIT: but it's mostly the lyrics, for sure.
Yeah, I just fixed it. Originally I just didn't want my post to be too huge, but I guess it's worth it for easier reading. I agree, and as long as they keep making their songs to such a high standard (of cohesiveness), I will be happy to listen to them. Stuff like the guitar solo in TLTGYA, the bridge through to the end of "The Catalyst", and the bridge to the end of "In My Remains", are some of the most awesome moments of their songs, and they do a really good job of tying a song together. And when I said I meant the album should be more consistent, I just meant songs like "Nobody's Listening" seem like they had a lot less effort put into them than a song like "Somewhere I Belong". This is the only album where I noticed this. Although I can't say I found it flows perfectly, I really loved the way we got such a wide variety of songs from MTM, and I'm glad that trend continued into ATS and LT. I love that we can get "Bleed It Out" and "Shadow of the Day" on the same album, or "Victimized" and "Powerless". I love both their soft and heavy songs, so a variety of each on their albums is always awesome. That was one of my biggest issues with THP, though there were softer moments in UIG and MTG.
Okay, this is getting a bit out of hand, so let me explain myself. I wasn't making fun of you at all. Or Brad. I mean, this is a Linkin Park fan site. We all love Linkin Park, otherwise we wouldn't be here. And In Pieces is one of my favorite LP songs (check page 42 of Session thread for proof). But I won't dissect the joke. Either you get it, or you don't. I'm sorry if you got offended.
It's a fair argument to say that that instrumental needs more layering but I don't particularly agree. It's not a bad hip-hop instrumental for its time. Back when we had to carry discs around to listen to, I remember realising how amazing it was that I could listen to "Pts.Of.Athrty", "FRGT/10", "P5hing Me A*wy", "My<DSMBR" and "KRWLNG" without having to change discs because they were all on the one album together.