Paramore — Paramore

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    The Joesen One

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    I'm gonna have to contradict you there. Sure, Paramore is a pop punk/punk rock band, but they always had a pop vibe in all of their songs, which is why they're huge among mainstream listeners. Songs like "Fast in My Car", "Ain't It Fun" and even "Daydreaming" were kind-of pop songs with rock guitars and choruses. Paramore, if it weren't for the massive rock guitars and drums, can be considered a pop record. But that's the thing: it's a kickass pop album. Let's look at other bands.

    My Chemical Romance - Their final album was "Danger Days", which had their most poppy songs. "Sing" is a good example.
    Fall Out Boy - They always had pop in their blood, despite pressure from fans and emo content in their songs. When they went on hiatus, Pete Wentz created Black Cards and became a DJ, and Patrick Stump made one of catchiest pop albums of 2011. I considered Save Rock and Roll their freedom album - a pop album where they can do what they want. Plus, it's awesome.
    Green Day - Power pop is evident is in quite a lot of their songs.
    Linkin Park - There is a pop vibe in a lot of songs. "In the End", "Breaking the Habit", "What I've Done", "Waiting for the End" and "Burn It Down" have pop written all over them.

    Many bands today actually exhibit pop in their records. Paramore is one. And "Still Into You" is a quirky pop song, so I don't see anything wrong with the video being quirky as well. Plus, it's one of the album's best songs.
     
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    You didn't have to prove me Paramore and other bands have pop influences in their music. I know that. I'd classify Paramore as alternative rock, pop rock, punk rock and pop punk.
    But one is having elements of pop in your music, and other is being a full-on pop act, which Paramore aren't. I was talking solely about the video and Hayley's image in it. Look at That's What You Get, or The Only Exception - these are pop songs and their videos don't show Paramore as a pop act, and this one, as well as the one for Now, does. So, as I don't view Paramore as a full-on pop act, I dislike both videos. I wasn't really bashing pop as a genre or anything, and I was talking about the video only, and about Paramore only, so there was really no need to get other bands' music into your argument. Well, not even Paramore's, because, as I said, I was talking about the video only.
     
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    This is one of the few things I hate about being in a band. I know we're all entitled to our opinion but it irks me when fans start talking about what a band "is". They are whatever music they make together. Which on this album seems to vary pretty wildly from song to song. I won't argue with your critique of the video (we all like/hate what we like/hate), I've just been noticing how judgmental some fans can be when the band they like tries to vary up the formula a bit. It's that push/pull of "do something new... but make it like your old stuff". Disliking it because you truly dislike it is all well and go. Disliking it just because you feel it's "not them", just blegh. lol

    Being in a band I have realized unless you are indentured to your scene like say, Slayer, it's all about pushing boundaries and being "different". It's very easy to get bored when making music. And you have to prove to yourself you have more to offer than your last songs show.

    The Farro's were a big part of their sound. I don't hear that same connectedness and catchiness in the guitar/drum combo anymore (lots of simple punk beats) and I can see they were trying to tap into what the brothers had. Some people say Hayley is Paramore and eff the Farros but I think a huge chunk of the "Paramore-ness" has gone with them. They were near perfection in their respective genre. You can hear them trying to get that magic the brothers had and I feel that's why they veer more pop on this one. I think there was no way they could churn out an album like BNE without them. They were left with a bassist and touring/fairly new rhythm guitarist.

    Better than their last album? No. But I enjoyed it. I can see they will never be what they were which is slightly sad, but this is kind of their Minutes to Midnight. A bit of stumbling from a band out to prove to themselves they can still do it.
     
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    I stand by my words. And again, I was talking about the video, not the song, damn it. I said all I had to in my previous post.
     
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    OK, I may have gone overboard on my posts, but yeah, I understand you. Still, though I think that the "Still Into You" video fits the song because of the song's super-cute-vibe. What's wrong with trying something new? Maybe they won't do this again. Maybe they will. At least they tried it out, whether or not fans like it. In my case, I like it; in your case, you don't.
     
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    I agree. I was using the video comment to kind of springboard into the rest of my post about music fans in general. But the entire post was not about you. That's my bad.

    The video is weird. I probably wouldn't play it again (few videos impress me). But props to them for amping up the visual content in the absence of the presence the brothers brought to their performance.
     
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    That - for sure.
     
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    I agree with NoN here, the video paints the wrong picture for the band. That's all he's trying to say.
     
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    This album does not get old. Really great job, Paramore.
     
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    The official video for "Anklebiters" was released today. It is a cartoon animated video without the band members, but enjoyable nevertheless. It was released only to the members of paramore.net. I registered so I could see it. It was in fact uploaded to YouTube, but it's secret so you can only see it if you're linked to it. As I was able to reach it from paramore.net, I can link you to it:

    [video=youtube;4CWhPozi7Kg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4CWhPozi7Kg[/video]
     
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    Anklebiters is a highlight of the album for me. Cool video!
     
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    Just to let you guys know, "Ain't It Fun" will be single #3 from Paramore. I'm pretty excited since for me it's one of the best songs of the album, and I'm pretty stoked for the video, directed by Jonathan Desbiens. I've been hearing "Anklebiters" and "Ain't It Fun" on the radio so I'm pretty excited. :D

    http://www.altpress.com/news/entry/...o_will_be_aint_it_fun_to_be_directed_by_jodeb

    And also, due to extremely late radio promotion and appearances in the Teen Choice Awards and Conan, "Still Into You" finally hit the Top 40 on the Billboard Hot 100, landing at #36. It's their first Top 40 single since "Monster".

    http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/music/news/a514839/katy-perry-extends-us-chart-lead-with-roar.html
     
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    I'll be really disappointed if "Part II" doesn't get released. It's a masterpiece.
     
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    Sad news, although thankfully they're on good terms. https://www.facebook.com/paramore/posts/10150644520784963

     
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    Well, that's really, really shitty. When the brothers left, it was a fresh start for the band. They created a new logo that signified the three remaining members and their unity. They also released the band's best album to date. It was all we could to do hope it would stay that way, and now this.

    This was probably my favourite tweet ever by anyone. It had two meanings: 1. Despite what the Farros were saying, Paramore was not just Hayley Williams & co., it was a band, and 2. Paramore would continue to exist even after losing two of its five members at the same time. It meant defiance. And it meant a new beginning.

    Now it seems that all that the self-titled era stood for has collapsed. Gone was the old Paramore, and now gone is the new Paramore. Two members? Placebo, for example, can pull that off. They've always had the same two core members, and if one of them left, there'd be no more Placebo. But I fail to see how Hayley and Taylor make up the core of Paramore, especially since Taylor is not even a founding member. I believe they can still release great music, but hell, they might as well change their name. Especially if they want to stand by the fact that Paramore is not Hayley's backup band. The self-titled era had the right to keep using the name as it was a statement about Paramore in and of itself (hence the album title), but if they kept it now it'd be spitting on that era and what it stood for, honestly.

    (Well, technically, just the fact that this happened is spitting on that era. Just like the Farros' departure was spitting on a couple songs on Brand New Eyes ("Looking Up" for example) which were like "hell yeah everything with the band is fantastic right now". Paramore should lay off making statements because this is the second time they've made one and the second time they ended up looking like idiots.)

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    I guess the comparisons to Evanescence will come more freely now.
     
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    :lol:

    Compared to back when the Farro brothers disappeared, this is just a drop in the ocean to me. It's way less shocking.

    But, then, I'm not a fan.
     
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    I meant insofar as the comparisons between the lead singers and their bands only being "backing bands." I heard that a lot back in the day when all the original members started leaving Evanescence, and when the Farro brothers left Paramore, I'd heard a lot of comparisons to Evanescence around the same time, due in no small part to the Farro brothers' claim that Hayley was the only member of the band who'd actually signed the contract. Now that neither band has any founding members left aside from their lead singers, I'll be surprised if we don't see the comparison more often, especially since both bands were (arguably) at the peak of their fame when their founding members started leaving.

    Then again, I could be way off base, but that's just how I see it. To be fair, though, neither band matters to me anymore; I haven't given a shit about Paramore since Riot! and I haven't given a shit about Evanescence since whatever their third album was called (since, technically, Fallen was their second album).
     
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    I think Jeremy left because as I recall he's a dad now. Prob to spend more time with family.
     
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    No love for Brand New Eyes? That album more or less brought their early sound to perfection, in my opinion.
     

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