Stumbled across something interesting on the web. Just thought I could share it. http://polidics.com/cia/top-ranking-cia-operatives-admit-al-qaeda-is-a-complete-fabrication.html
Considering this site also claims Obama's long-form birth certificate is fake, I'll take this as seriously as a sane person takes Donald Trump seriously.
Reports are saying this is the unit that took him down. http://www.history.com/news/2011/05/02/the-secret-unit-that-killed-bin-laden/
You've visited Libya since since the civil war, or you visited Libya a while before? Because I'd imagine there'd be a slight difference in the "Don't like Gaddafi but really really really fucking hate you" argument. Now don't get me wrong, I'm sure like 90% of them still sincerely do hate 'Murika, but it's good to keep the whole before/currently thing in mind. Egypt has wasn't firing rockets on people, for one. The Tunsia revolution killed around 300 people, the Libyan civil war has killed around ten times as many. Russian and China have problems with Islamic extremists in a closer proximity to them than Americas, and would risk a bigger response by getting involved. And frankly, despite the big scary economic giant China is/is supposed to be I'm pretty sure they're not always entirely upfront with that whole "advanced first world military" as they'd want us fat American pigdogs believing. Hey, here's one; why did France of all place want to bomb Libya before America? Why did France push for Obama to take military action? I'm only left to assume Sarkozy doesn't actually exist, and is a U.S. concoction so they can go take oil. Now see that'd make sense, except Afghanistan actually doesn't have much oil. There's an insistence that the US has plans to build pipelines that will take oil from surrounding countries in the north, and they're porbably all true, but I have a feeling you had no idea about that and just knew it was "OILOILOILOILOILOIL". That sweet sweet opium market, on the other hand... Now, when ethnic cleansing (at best) or genocide (at worst) isn't enough of a reason to overthrow somebody, when is? Man this is going to piss you off but... Serbia was sort of the aggressor in a lot of those Yugoslavia wars. Clinton didn't overthrow Milosevic to liberate Serbians, Clinton bombed Milosevic to make him cut the shit. No, no it's not. In fact, someone telling you to fuck off, while a total dick move, has nothing to do with democracy at all.
I know that's been the general opinion in the western world for the last 15 years, but the court for Yugoslav wars in Den Haag decided a couple of days ago that the Croatian military action was a criminal act and that they committed genocide too, so I guess the real picture is starting to form after all. And the Balkans have been a complex area forever, we're all living next to each other and we've been waging wars here for the last 1300 years, so whatever happened here cannot be worse than a country travelling across the globe and starting wars wherever they feel like it. And don't even get me started with Kosovo, just imagine what would US do if illegal Mexican immigrants suddenly became a majority in any of their states, forced the Americans out and wanted to declare the state independent.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-0503-bin-laden-new-york-20110503,0,64196.story Well Some people still aren't happy.
Everybody's done something wrong. ;" To state what I think is obvious, Osama bin Laden's death won't affect the 'war' very heavily. In that context, it's quite meaningless now
But it doesn't hurt for the U.S. to enjoy this for a while. Despite how meaningless it might be, it's still a big event. And it couldn't have come at a better time. Surely this may help Obama get re-elected.
A lot of people are saying that with the timing of the event and how the President phrased it in his announcement soon after, this probably reassured him the second term. Without a doubt, this will help. I can't actually see how this hurts him. For the most wanted man to be taken care of during your administration is a big deal, and considering that this man was behind the 9/11 Terrorist Attacks, I can't see why people wouldn't consider this when deciding whether or not to reelect him in 2012.
It was exciting news for about the first two minutes of the breaking story of Bin Laden's death. Then the rest was America gloating over the "victory" over terrorism and its turned into a pro-Obama election campaign. Now, they really have no excuse to be in the Middle East if Bin Laden's dead and Hussein's been executed. But I don't think this event alone will lower America's ego about the War in the Middle East. As much as I think it was justified, I think even more about how selfish it was. Yes, I'm with El Meurto in this situation, severely, and that opinion has come after talking to him in several threads about the American involvement in the Middle East, so I think @BlackeeDammit if you haven't gotten the Americans on your doorstep and seen what he's been through, I would be quiet all together. But I'm not telling you what to do.
Oh I'm sure being bombed isn't exactly the most pleasant of experiences, but the "Americans just rape and loot everything and I would know" rebuttal glosses over quite a bit of what happened in Yugoslavia. I'm sure many a Bosnian might have different interpretation of "fat ugly American imperialist meddling", or does that not count because it wasn't someone thousands of miles away declaring the war? Nobody's insisting it was any worse than W. pillaging Iraq, but that's an awfully big detail to casually neglect to mention. ---- On another note, I want someone to explain when exactly it wouldn't have been 'convenient' to kill Bin Laden. Anyone, at any time, would of course gotten a huge surge of popularity killing or capturing him.
I'm not gonna continue the debate on Yugoslav wars here since that's not the topic, I just wanted to let you know that that's not my quote.