APC are nu metal? Will, you have a point there, but in the same way, death metal does not exist, because Morbid Angel are considered death metal, and so do In Flames. However, Morbid Angel are so heavy they can make your ears bleed, while In Flames are usually slightly heavier then bands of the like of Iron Maiden. My point: there's heavier and softer stuff , there are good and crappy bands in every genre. Just because some bands have decided to leave their former nu metal sound and become softer or whatever doesn't mean that nu metal's dead, especially since masterpieces like Slipknot's new album keep coming out.
I don't really believe in the whole "genre" system. Everyone thinks differently, everyone defines bands different. Like Seether. Seether's main influence is Nirvana, and sometimes they sound a little grunge, so people define them by that, but then again, they aren't, so others put them as "Hard Rock" or "Rock". Since the genre system is crap, I made my own: Rock-Bands that aren't pop, but are like towing the line. Hard Rock-Bands that are harder than the "rock" genre, but not quite. . . Metal-The hard ####. Those are the only genres I frequently listen to music out of. Oh, and just because I'm not a big fan of it, hardcore has it's own genre. But I still don't like. it.
yes! exactly my point! You cant classify bands like Slipknot with Linkin park or Limp Bizkit. They sound Nothing alike!
I'd love to speak to the idiot that classified In Flames as Death Metal. [/b][/quote] Sorry mate, any metal magazine that respects themselves has the names of three bands next to the term NWOSDM (new wave of swedish death metal): At the gates, Dark Tranquillity and In flames. If you only listen to the soft singles they release, try hearing their first stuff. Heavy as hell, and no toher genre includes Anders' brutal vocals.
A Perfect Circle is not nu-metal, their music is too intelligent and Maynard would kill anyone who says they are nu-metal
A Perfect Circle is prog metal, just like Tool. Will made many good points, and why is it that metal is the only type of music that has different genres and classifications? You don't see rap or country with different genres, do you? If there are, I've never heard of them.
You can't really be different in Country or Pop. In Rock you can have different types of guitars, singers, etc. Of course, there is Techno Country, IIRC.
LOL... you guys have just explained why I hate the nu-metal label. People always "insult" bands that are "nu-metal", but whenever a band that they like is called "nu-metal" they start the old "Ahhhh, hell no!!!! THIS BAND ROCKS, THEY'RE TOO GOOD FOR NU-METAL!!!1111!!11".
Well when it's painfully obvious that said band isn't nu-metal, some well contend that opinion. I don't even like them, but A Perfect Circle being nu-metal is just insane.
How is it insane? It fits perfectly. The riffs of the guitars of their first album, the instrumentals, overall, of their last album, the music style, etc. I hate to dissapoint you, but lyrics don't decide what genre you fit in. It's not insane. You're just afraid to admit that they may be "nu-metal" because you don't like the genre. Too many bands are classified as "nu-metal", though, as I'm sure you'd agree. Placing so many bands together in a bullshit label (as Will said) is stupid. Half the bands sound nothing alike.
A Perfect Circle isn't nu-metal based on the fact alone that they don't have rapping. Half of the bands that are grouped in the nu-metal category are there because they have hip-hop influences. I can assure you Maynard has none of that. A Perfect Circle is alternative. That's like saying Incubus is nu-metal. I agree that way to many bands are in the nu-metal label though. Some belong their though.
Oh, so all nu-metal bands have rapping in them? Really now? I would have to disagree. There are a lot with hip hop influences, yes, but that doesn't mean all the artists in that "genre" are. Hell, I'd bet money that less than half have "hip-hop influences". I've seen APC classified as "nu-metal" numerous times. It shouldn't surprise you. As I've stated, you're just mad because you don't like the nu-metal genre, as a whole. Tell me, if nu-metal were a genre with thousands of respected and venerable artists, would you still be mad? Of course not. Even if they sounded nothing alike (to APC) you'd say they're in the same genre, I would bet, if the argument came up.
Uh, sorry, I like some nu-metal. I listen to Limpbizkit. What the #### do you think Linkin Park is? I'm not trying to be mean, because I've been called out for it, so I'm going to shut up. In closing, I like some nu-metal. In the 1999, when nu-metal REALLY burst out, who was at the forefront? LB & Korn. Hey, rapping. <_< APC is not nu-metal. If they're nu-metal, then ####### Tool is nu-metal. I'm done. I have 2 warnings and I don't want another. bye.
YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING ME?! A Perfect Circle is NOWHERE NEAR nu-metal. APC has no similiarities to any nu-metal sound there is. Whoever you've heard this from is obvious a joke, use your mind instead of someone else's when you classify this stuff.
I'm not trying to start a fight with you or anything, I'm just saying it's funny how people get offended when bands are classified as nu-metal. And if you're telling me that having a hip-hop influence and being a rock band is the only prerequisite to being nu-metal, then I would have to completely disagree. Both Slipknot and Sevendust have hip-hop "influences", but if anyone tells me they're "nu-metal" I'd have to classify them as morons. If they can classify bands into the nu-metal genre, then I can classify them in the category of moron. X-Ecutioners have rock and rap in numerous songs, but they're not nu-metal. They're hip-hop. Kid Rock has been called nu-metal, but that's absolutely asinine. Kid Rock is a rock artist, plain and simple, I don't care what anyone states to the contrary. To classify Kid Rock as nu-metal is utter nonsense, no matter if you like him or not. Heck, tons of the bands in the nu-metal category don't have any hip-hop influences what-so-ever. 12 Stones, 3 Doors Down, 30 Seconds to Mars, Breaking Benjamin, Chevelle, Cold, Default, Disturbed, Evanescence, Hoobastank, etc. And that's just from browsing the first little bit of my playlist. All of those bands are classified as nu-metal in most places, yet I don't see how any of them could have hip-hop influences. It seems to me that nu-metal is basically anything with high production values, some electronic sounds, actually good vocals that don't fit the sterotypical "metal" scene, and more rhythm guitar than lead guitar (well, lead guitar is normally a form of rhythm in the band, I mean). Nu-metal is the stupidest genre I've ever heard of.
YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING ME?! A Perfect Circle is NOWHERE NEAR nu-metal. APC has no similiarities to any nu-metal sound there is. Whoever you've heard this from is obvious a joke, use your mind instead of someone else's when you classify this stuff. [/b][/quote] It was a ploy to see his response, bud. A Perfect Circle has a plethora of similarities to nu-metal. You people are just afraid to admit it. Do I think they are nu-metal? Hell no. I don't even like the genre's label to begin with, as I've already said. But if I had to classify them, it wouldn't be nu-metal. I was going for a response, which I obviously got.
Sevendust isn't metal, so I don't know what the hell they are. I think they're just straight up rock but whatever. Kid Rock changes with every album he makes. Cocky was rock, and his S/T is like country rock or something. He gets played on CMT so he's obviously country something. The following bands I have never heard being classified as 'nu-metal': 3 Doors Down, 30 Seconds to Mars, Cold, Default, Hoobastank Yeah because the typical soft verse, loud chorus, soft verse, loud chorus, short guitar solo and loud chorus is very interesting, isn't it? Anyways, not trying to pick a fight. I just like debates. No hard feelings or anything. It's just a matter of an opinion vs another opinion.