Two adults did come first. That is, if you're Christian or Catholic. And how does postal service have to do with history? [/b][/quote] I'd not say that . You can't read the Bible word to word. You have to understand what's behind the story. Like, when he gives sight to a blind man, he doesn't really, he opens his eye to faith. Back on topic...
Just discovered this masterpiece of a thread (yeah, I'm still the noob here)...and I've gotta say that you're completely right Derek. A few months ago, I was involved in a relationship which seemed to be going very well. Then she went on vacation. After that, the second she got back, bang. Dumped. I don't think I've ever felt worse, and I'm still not over it. The biggest nail in the coffin? The day after, she started talking about how she's in another relationship and how happy she is there, and then she tries to ask my brother out. Nice guys may not always finish last, but in this case, I sure seem to be at the back of the pack. I'm fully put off dating for another few months at least...probably for a long time.
It's not just nice guys that finish last, it's nice girls too. I know, I've been there, it's happened to me and I've seen it happen to other girls. Guys don't even really notice the quiet, conservatively dressed, and genuinely nice girls. At least, not in my experience. Or if they do, because she's quiet or shy they think she's a snob. Guys and girls do the same thing when it comes to relationships. They always go after someone who's obviously not interested and get their hearts broken in the process. And it's not just girls who do the leading on. Don't think that for a second. As a sophomore I had a crush on one of my guy friends. I had an older sister who noticed him but only like she'd notice anyone else. Of the two of us, it was me he'd talk to, me he'd flirt with, me that he'd find at football games and other places. Even asked me for my number. He gave every appearance of being interested in me, and being stupid as I am, I fell for it. I finally got together enough courage to ask him out, and he turned me down cold. His next comment was, "I've liked your sister all along." Now I have to give you a little background about me and my sister. It's an accepted fact that she's the prettier one. She's also the flashier dresser and has slightly better grades. She's the golden child of the family, done everything there is to do, so whenever I do something, it kind of loses the luster. I mean, it's been done before. I have to say this, though: she's not really nice to people. She acknowledges their existence, but in a degrading way. She'd make a perfect preschool teacher, simply because she treats everyone like they're four years old. So out of the two of us, this is the way it goes: I'm shy, she's outgoing. I dress really conservatively, her not so much. I don't find it easy to talk to everyone, but I treat them as equals, not as four-year-olds. And it wasn't just one guy, it's the majority of the male population with which I am acquainted. There are two exceptions that I know of. I've had other experiences, guys who have dumped me for a different girl because she'll put out and I won't, guys who have ignored me because I think for myself, chauvinists who have named me a "femme-Nazi" and therefore not worth their notice. I have my faults, but I still think that I'm a fairly nice person, if a little shy. It's not just nice guys that finish last. My apologies, Derek. I've infringed on your ranting space.
No problem, I'm well aware guys can do this to girls as well. This was my way of saying that guys aren't the only bad gender on this planet and that some girls are just as guilty as guys. I get sick of hearing that guys are assholes when I know deep down inside I'm nothing like that.
To me, this is one of the worst things you can ever have done to you...and I know, it's happened to me, not exactly in that way, but I've already detailed it above, so no use repeating myself. IMHO, it's grounds for said person receiving a package that ticks. I'm shocked that he actually had the balls (and cold heart) to say that last bit about your sister to your face. That's the ultimate wrong, and I hope nobody ever has to go through that. No matter how much you liked him, how much you think he liked you, how much you wanted him, the fact that he would THINK of doing such a thing to you says one thing. You can do so much better. 'Nuff said.
I knew a guy in high school and i admit he was weird but he was really nice when he opened up. Anyways he had the biggest thing for a girlfriend of mine. She talked to him and agreed to go for walks with him and would see him out of school ect ect. Basically in the long run she was leading him on and making him think he had a chance when in reality she would never date him because she wanted someone better looking (even if they were jerks). It really sucks because shes gonna hurt so many guys in the long run. But then again ive seen guys do the same things to girls. Alot of my girlfriends have been "friends" with a guy only to have him blow them off when something pretty walks in the room....then come crawling back when shes gone. Personally i was friends with a guy and he acted like he really liked me. He pretty much screwed me over and was using me to make him feel better coz he knew i liked him. It made him feel special. Well i figured it out (after an embarrasingly long period of time) and told him where to go. I dont see him anymore. all in all it sucks to be the nice person who gets used and abused.
Well said...you basically just outlined my current state of affairs...my ex thinks it's "no big deal" that she wants a date with my little brother, and it seems whenever I get into a relationship, I get totalled within 3 months because "someone better came along". It's really sad, since I try to be as nice as I can be, and the person I get dumped for (frequently I know this person) is a real ***hole and just acts nice to win her over. Stupid.
In general, it's awful what guys and girls do to each other. And Derek dear, no one is calling you an #######. Edit: Sorry about the language.
No but my one ex-friend who influenced this WHOLE rant, never once gave me a chance because she thought I'd be like all the others.
I understand this completely. Ive been hurt a lot before, and it never ever gets any easier. Until March of last year, I was with this girl for a year and a half. I thought we loved each other, but in the end she goes from "Oh, I love you" to "I dont feel anything" in about a day. We fought a lot and she treated me like sh*t. It took me the longest time to get over her. I couldn't be with anyone and trust them. She is basically the reason as to why I have depression. I had severe trust issues, and I basically became an #######. I will admit I used people to get back at her, and it worked, but I felt bad after it. That was until about November last year. I took some time off, and last month I met Steph. We talked, we worked on stagecrew together, and I started to like her, but I still wasnt sure as to what I shouldve done. I eventually asked her out, and right now I'm happier than I've ever been. I now know what it really is like to truly be in love with someone, and have the same feeling given back to me. The point of all that is, even though nice guys can be hurt, theres always a chance for everyone.