Really the theory I got going right now is that whatever happened on the island happened, even if the people don't go to the island. Jack saving Charlie, Jack meeting Desmond and remembering him, Boone and Locke becoming kind of close, etc. I feel like Jack meeting Locke is a big deal. He gave him his card and said nothing is irreversible. I feel like Jack is going do do surgery on Locke and cure him, just as if he had gone to the island. People who die on the island die in the new reality, etc. I think that would be pretty cool, although I'd love to see both realities merge into one. But honestly... its lost, none of our major theories have ever been right... so I don't think we are going to predict the ending accurately at all.
Spoilers for tonight's episode! S06. E03 I really enjoyed tonight's episode! It had some great scenes with Sawyer, and the ending was great! Was nice to see Claire at the end too, along with Jack being led towards finding out about his sister being Claire! I also liked how Jin's storyline progressed a little too, was nice to see him on his own again doing his own thing. Looks like next week is going to be just as good, and I don't know what it was, but I think I prefer that there were no scenes to do with Locke, Jacob, Mib etc. I mean Ben is a broken man nowadays, and until Jin reunites with Sun, I'm quite happy for them to focus on Jack etc. At least with this episode, haha.
Meh, I felt it was completely a filler episode. I don't feel like it progressed at all... at least not till the last 5 minutes anyway... I think it confirmed the fact that the things that happened on the island will happen in the alternate reality too. Claire keeping the baby, Kate and Ethan being around her during pregnancy, etc. I was happy to see Claire "alive" again... I've really missed her, but he idea that she was "corrupted" upsets me... I wanted her to be back to normal! I'm just curious what this "claimed" thing means though... are claire and sayid both dead? Controlled? Who knows. And did Sayid take the pill and is that going to kill him off? I wonder if it at all resembles Daniele Ruseo's (sp) claim that her friends were infected. In season 5 it made her off to seem crazy and that she killed them for no reason... but maybe she knew they were claimed too. Also, I was thinking, why did the smoke monster drag her friends into the temple's walls if that is where the people are hiding from the smoke monster? Could it possibly be that the temple people are not who they say they are, and they support Man in Black, and not Jacob? I doubt it though. I just wanted the story to progress a lot and it really didn't. I am really waiting for the Richard flash backs which they said would be coming eventually this season... I am almost certain he was a slave on the Black Rock, but I want to see it. Next weeks episode will probably focus on that group, or at least I hope it includes them a bit, or the temple plot moves a little more. We have been watching the stupid love triangle and kate/sawyers need to run for 5 seasons... lets move on!
As with the person above, I felt like the S6x03 episode was kind of lacking. Would've loved for Dogen/Lennon to have explained a bit more to Jack about Sayid/Claires' conditions. Was I the only one disappointed in Claire's return? The again, I have never liked Claire much as a character.
I always liked Claire Um on tonight's episode... so much better than episode 3. I think I just like the Smokey story better because it reveals more and is less drama filled than the temple half. I guess now we know why specifically the people were brought to the island but I think for the most part we already knew jacob brought them. I'm glad smokey is stuck in Locke, it seems to make him weak. I like how he clearly is not this fearless being. Seeing child jacob scares the crap out of him! But I wonder who child jacob meant smokey can't kill... sawyer? richard? or someone else? His comment reminded me of Ban telling Whitmore he broke the rules, and then Ben saying he broke the rules by coming back to the island. Also why did Smokey reply using Lockes catch phrase?? I think the whole list on the cave is strange. I wish I could read the scratched out names better. Are they all of the survivors on the plane? Or are they just the group named and then a bunch of other random people? How did the names get scratched off? I mean Locke did because he is dead, but if the other names are oceanic survivors, not all of them are dead yet, like Rose and Bernard. Is this list comparable to the lists of people during the original kidnappings of the crash members? If so why did they leave the people on the list in wild? Why is it that with every answer... 100's of more questions come...
Yes, very good episode, here are my thoughts. I really enjoyed Ben off the island and Sawyers story. Also the appearance of some familiar off island characters is always nice. It was very odd to see them burying Locke. Is he really gone? Will MIBLocke become normal Locke somehow? Seems kind of definitive to bury Locke's body to suggest he's gone forever, but then again this is Lost. I liked Ben's speech when burying Locke too. As for the blonde boy, assuming it is Jacob, I think he was telling MIB that he can't kill Sawyer. In other words, MIB can't kill the candidates. Here's a list of names found so far written on the wall, I believe. All these people are familiar names in the Lost world, obviously. So it appears that most people on the island are or have been candidates. However, the exception of Kate being on there is quite odd (unless we see it next week?) and I have a theory as to why she isn't listed: ----------------------- After watching the latest episode and the scene where it appears Kate's name wasn't written on the cave walls, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Kate was never meant to be on the island in the first place. Flash back to when she was a child and got caught stealing the lunch box, and Jacob visited her and told her to be good from now on. This was Jacob's way of intervening in her life to prevent her from ever getting on the island. Jacob hoped that by intervening he could teach her a lesson and not to be a bad person, and this would change her life for the better, and in turn, stop her from murdering her step-father. They're obviously major differences between stealing a lunch box and murdering her step-father, but Jacob hoped that his appearance would teach her the lesson of right from wrong and to always be good, and arguably this failed, as she's now wanted for murder. Now is the question of why would Jacob not want Kate to be on the island? I assume the simple fact is that she's been a continuous distraction for potential substitutes, to protect the island. She's arguably the reason Jack ever wanted to leave the island, or at least be so adamant about getting home, as it was in his nature to protect Kate. Kate is arguably also the reason Sawyer ever tried to get home on the raft, as he also wants to protect her. Obviously, this theory would say that Jacob doesn't always have the power to change the future, and his "touch" doesn't always work. There could have been a whole string of people Jacob visited to make sure they didn't get on Flight 815, as they would somehow prevent a worthy substitute their job, but we didn't see these encounters as Kate was the only one who managed to change fate, and somehow the events in her life led her to the island anyway. Maybe this was down to US Marshall, Edward Mars, who "coincidentally" caught up with Kate in Australia, forcing her on the flight after all. Leaving it out of her hands, as it would appear she was the only one on that plane who wasn't travelling at her own free will. Of course this theory has its holes, and it could be reversed to say that because of her, Sawyer & Jack are STILL on the island (Sawyer jumped from the helicopter / Turned around the Submarine because of Kate. Jack however claimed he wanted to go back for the ones left behind, or was it really because he thought it was the only way to bring him and Kate closer together? Different theory all together!). This theory could also be disproved by Jacob's visit to young James Ford. He also told him not to hold on to that anger and resentment, but James did, and James going to Australia to find the real Sawyer (to get revenge) is what put him on that plane in the first place, but maybe Jacob knew James couldn't change and it was inevitable that he would seek revenge. Whereas he genuinely thought he could save Kate, but he didn't. A very open theory, but I think there is something in this, especially with her name not being visible on the wall, of course if it turns out that it is next week, this whole theory is redundant. ----------------------- So yeah, overall great episode, looking forward to next week, and remember, no spoilers about previews for next week as I don't watch them!
Ummm I really don't think that your theory is true. It's got so much holes that I don't even know where to start. I heard a theory that Kwon will turn out to be Jin, and that all the candidates are supposed to be male, and that's why Kate's not on the list. It's not that solid either but I think it's much better than realizing after five seasons that Kate wasn't even meant to be on the island. That would ruin the story for me, I always thought that all of them were supposed to be there for some reason. I also don't think that the kid is Jacob or Aaron, maybe a third entity on the island that establishes the rules or something like that. And all those names on the list are not official, I read that many of the listed are names of Red Sox baseball players, so maybe the producers were just throwing up random names up there. And I loved the smokey perspective. It was the best episode so far in this season.
Assuming this list is true, and after some time trying to compare it to stills of the scene I have to say it looks pretty accurate, I feel like we have to rule out the need for a leader to be male. There are plenty of female characters on that list, unless we are to assume that they are males of the family, IE Juliette's father, but honestly it seems kind of silly to assume that these names would refer back to people we have never met. I think Littleton does refer to Claire, which would explain why her name is crossed off, based on last weeks episode she was filled with darkness, although an interesting twist would be to cross off each of the remaining people leaving no candidate, but then discovering that Littleton was actually Aaron... I'm starting to think we give Aaron more credit than he deserves though. I mean we KNOW there was something funky about Walt, but there is no reason to assume Aaron or even Desmonds son are equally special. So the idea that Aaron is the blond boy is fascinating, but I'm not sure if it will ring true. But going back to the list.... everyone is freaking out over Kate not being on the list... but neither is Desmond, Bernard, Rose, etc. I mean I know she was touched as a child, but just because the Touch is what brought her to the island... she could have another purpose... I mean, what if she is the only one who can save Sawyer from helping Smokey... I still think everyone was brought to the island for a reason, but not necessarily for the same one. One of the questions I'm really curious about is, who was on the Black Rock when Jacob brought it. I assume it was Richard, but I see no Alpert on that wall... I am pretty sure they promised us Richard flashbacks... give me it! Actually, on that note, I really think that the boy was referring to either Richard or Jacob when he said you can't kill him. If the boy is Jacob, then Richard would make more sense, but if the boy is the islands greater ruler, then it could make sense that he would say you broke the rules by killing Jacob. But I think it could be Richard as well because I feel like Jacob gave Richard ever lasting life and made him safe from Smokey as well, and now Smokey wants to find a way to killer Alpert. Who's to say that list was even actually made by Smokey... why are we so easy to trust what Smokey says... he is clearly trying to manipulate Sawyer... what if that list is a list of the people he thinks he could manipulate into helping him kill Jacob and get off the island? Idk, I guess we still have about a dozen episodes left to find out haha.
It's more like 5 episodes more until we get the eyeliner-centric episode. I expect some major answers then.
I wonder why Kates name was in the lighthouse but not the cave. I hope they didn't just do that due to the reaction by fans that her name wasn't on the cave. My theory is that the cave is a list of candidates for the leader, while the lighthouse just allowed him to watch whoever he wanted. I think the lighthouse is what calls the people to the island. Just like sailors sometimes use a lighthouse to find the entrance to a harbor, basically the only way to find the island may be related to the lighthouse. I feel like he brought kate to the island to mediate Jack and Sawyer, not be a leader. So I guess the question is, did Jacob really want the lighthouse set to 108, and if so who is Wallace and why is he coming to the island? I like to think Wallace could be Walt, but based on traditional name origins, the two are not related. What I thought was funny about this though, was that 108 was Wallace, and Jacks son's name was David, therefore creating David Wallace, from the Office. It made me laugh haha. Idk, I really liked the episode. Just seeing that Jacob still has a plan and is still up to something is interesting. It saddens me to see Claire in the mix with the smoke monster... I really liked her, and now shes going insane. What is weird is that she is acting like Rousoux(?). Setting traps, living alone, talking about infections, etc. I wonder if Danielle was ever deceived by the smoke monster as well... Which actually brings me to the question, when Danielle's people arrived ,the smoke monster pulled her friend into the temple, but now, the people inside the temple seem to oppose the smoke monster. Where in history did this go down? Or did it? I still am really iffy on who I am supposed to trust, because I really don't trust Jacob or the temple people or the smoke monster... There has to be a good party, but I'm just not seeing it.
I hope note. I know he is kind of unnecessary since we already have a comedic relief character (Hugo) but I was really starting to prefer Miles... I'm hoping Sayid will save him
So next week is the Richard episode. I saw no one has commented on here for a bit, but seeing as how next weeks episode is going to be AMAZING, I think it should be talked about! So far two sneak peaks are up: [video=youtube;Ck_agBf5QKA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ck_agBf5QKA[/video] [video=youtube;XQvfkEWBR3c]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQvfkEWBR3c[/video]
And the promo: [video=youtube;bSHE5C023WE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSHE5C023WE[/video] Can't wait for this
Wow. Thank god I stayed away from this thread before I saw tonight's episode, as I don't like spoilers for Lost at all, and that includes the name of future episodes and who it's about, haha, and I would have hated knowing it was Richard's episode. Anyway, I was pleasantly surprised when it was, and there are two words to sum up tonight's episode. FUCKING EPIC. Probably one of the best episodes, if not the best LOST episode ever. Just brilliant.