me too. but yeah, thats what im trying to say. Link04: i see where youre coming from, but still, if something has to be created by someone (assuming god), then who created god? [/b][/quote] Wow, last night was not one of my best...lol. I completely confused my self, but now I've got it straight. It turns out I was correct with my initial post, my edited version is what's incorrect. What I meant to say is: From nothing, comes nothing. With that said, there HAS to be something infinite through which all things come. The thing is, God is infinite. God is beyond time and space. God didn't come from anything, he was already in existence. Now, that's a pretty hefty thought for tons of people to believe just by faith, but it's the logic of monotheists.