First of all, yes I am back, I have cooled down, don't like Linkin Park, dont like a certain moderator.... but these serious chats really make me think, w00t! I apologise to all that i have offended previously. Now, the topic.... I believe in God, but not in a traditional way, i am a Roman Catholic, but i interpret the bible differently than others. I am undecided about the creation of the world, so i wont get into it. Now, i dont really believe in the whole bible stories with all the healing miracles and such, i believe that they were made up by the authors of the bible to get a certain point across. I believe that they were made up as an example to teach people something. For example, the story about a man giving money to his three slaves. Two of them used the money to make more, the other didnt use it, or touch it, he wanted to preserve it. the man that gave the money was displeased with him. That had shown that we must use all of out possesions to help ourselves, and the ones around us in a positive way. I agree with what, uhh one of the members had said, that God is just a hope for people, that there is some good in this world. Hey, I've learned to smile. I dont believe God as a security blanket, but as a hope, as previously said. I also believe Him to be just a character made from humans to teach us certain lessons to bring us to all that equality and helping others crap. On the issue of what happens after death, i dont know, it changes regularily, sometimes it is just life as this, only peace and equality, other times its our second chance to not screw up (maybe right now im living in my second chance....?) or just as a calm and peaceful paradise, say a beach.... or a loud place with awesome bands always playing, such as Propaghandi and Rise Against. well, there's my say, disagree as you see fit...
As my friend once told me: "there is a point in debate in which you must stop and say, 'that is what I believe, and that's that.'" I have reached that point. Obviously, those who don't believe are as equally set in their ways as those who do. Nothing I say, nor do, short of an act from God himself will prove otherwise to some people. Yet, that is not the purpose of debate either; and as I've said, I'm not trying to convert anyone. I just figure I'll stop wasting my thoughts on this topic, since they will be irrelevant. I'm done with this discussion.
that was SO majorly off topic lmao [/offtopic] anyways. back to life theories. [/b][/quote] Wow. And you didn't help any by being off topic, too.
Wow. And you didn't help any by being off topic, too. [/b][/quote] im sorry will. i like making pointless, offtopic comments. i couldnt resist. it was just so random... 'zeldas cool'
Beyond what we see are the real reasons why you live. That is why its so far away. We need to find out ourselves and stop being Flies in the vasoline we call life.
then what are we supoesed to be instead of being flies in vasoline?... not that i dont agree with you. in a way, i dont, because vasoline is life. so youre either a fly in vasoline or you die.
then what are we supoesed to be instead of being flies in vasoline?... not that i dont agree with you. in a way, i dont, because vasoline is life. so youre either a fly in vasoline or you die. [/b][/quote] The Vasoline is anything you want it to be. Life, Problems, and even a lost loved one. You just got to stop focusuing on one thing.
The Vasoline is anything you want it to be. Life, Problems, and even a lost loved one. You just got to stop focusuing on one thing. [/b][/quote] life is made up of various problems and complicated situations we have to deal with. i see it as vasoline. we do get stuck in it, but that what every human does...
So you never had a problem in your life. That's amazing. Whis i were you. [/b][/quote] I have problems. But not with vasoline.
Do any of you believe in life that lives beyond our world? I've always thought about it to tell you the truth, I have several opinions flying around. So far the most I believe in is Will's. It seems the most understandable to tell you the truth. I don't believe in God. I think i've finally come to stand true to that belief and I know few of you changed my point of view completley so far. But that doesn't mean i'm not open to anything else of course. I'm just curious if there's another world I suppose. Maybe were not the only one's, you know? I'm just not sure about it but i'd like to know if any of you have an idea of some sort that could help me think about it more clearly..
I'm a firm believer in fate. Everything happens for a reason. There are no coincidences. Whatever you may suffer or experience throughtout your lifetime, there's a reason to it. I look back to my Grade 8 year. A very difficult time. I wonder how my life would be for me now if it wasn't so. Would I have more confidence in myself to be a stronger person? I also strongly believe in karma and reincarnation. My theory is that everyday life would be impossible if we carried such a tremendous load of memories around with us. Perhaps if we've lived before, this is way we cannot remember doing so.
like i said, i just think you come from a sperm/egg and your just the lucky chosen one. i dont think people get reincarnated because that just doesnt make sense at all. 1. its like your mind/soul is being recycled. if thats so, then how were the minds created in the first place? would they just stop being created and just keep going in a never-ending circle? no, i didnt think so. 2. the popluation (especially of humans) has gone way above normal so there would too many bodies for these "souls" to occupy. its just impossible. and besides, how can you even come to the conclusion that you get reincarnated. my friend used to say he got reincarnated and this is his "second life" and that certain people have this "gift" where they get reincarnated. and i was just like thats a bunch of bullsh*t god doesnt exist. heaven and hell do not exist. no one has died and come back to life saying theyve seen god and if they have they are just mental and need to be put in a psych ward. as for people saying they have "faith", they should re-name the word "faith" and replace it with "my parents told me to believe in god and raised me that way and i listen to them". now i must work on my to kill a mockingbird essay instead of writing this. EDIT: oh, and that whole fate thing, its also impossible. how in the world can someone decide every single beings actions. every event, moment, detail. because god it all mighty and can do anything? (see above).
i dont mean it in a way that god does all the work. i see it as though god controls it, but he doesnt make it himself. i mean, fate is just fate. god doesnt make it. he can only change it.