Life Theory

Here's my two cents.


There is no point trying to figure out what life is/was/is going to be. It is way beyond our current comprehention of anything comprehensible. Everybody has a religion or a theory, and they all believe them to be true. Everyone can't be right. But who's to say that one or another is right... What if there is no such concept of 'right'.

What if our understanding of the world is completely wrong because we are not as advanced as we would like to think. What if there is no such thing as a 'planet'. Or a 'galaxy'. Or 'mollecular structure'...

Think about this one

If there was no such thing as 'life', would there be Earth, a galaxy... anything? It's just like the tree falling in the forest question. Nobody knows for sure...

I have to stop because I'm getting so confused, I can't remember what I'm talking about...

 

Um...well sorry but just because I don't believe in God doesn't mean I lead a tortured life... In fact its quite the opposite. I get the impression that many religious people think that those who are 'disbelievers' are always in this state of confusion, searching for the 'answers' to the 'bigger questions' that 'clearly God is the answer to'. Well, sorry to dissapoint you but that's not the case at all, at least not with me. I don't lead any more confused a life than the next guy and I sure as hell don't think I'm tortured. (Unless I have someone hell bent on converting me to x religion, not that anyones done that here). Love is an emotion, it has evolved from the basic instincts of creatures to desire companionship. Very few animals prefer to survive alone, humans have simply given this desire a title and made it formal. It has nothing to do with God, the church simply decided they'd take over the whole marriage thing because 'clearly that is something God made'. Emotions come from instincts, instincts develop from needs of a creature from their environment. A human needs oxygen to live, so we breathe instinctively. There is no mystical force that allows me to breathe, just as there is no mystical force that allows me to love. So yes I can "honestly live and love and be loved and not have any faith for anything but your little scientific theries"

Oh, but I guess I'm wrong since "It's really f@#$ed up that you can love someone and only believe in that chemical ####." I think I'll go pray to Venus since I can't have love without religious beliefs, OH WAIT, Venus isn't a REAL God, only ours is, I forgot. [/b][/quote]
I agree with everything you said. Love is an instinct, and you don't need a "God" to tell you that you're in love with someone. I stopped believing in "God" when my grandfather died. If this "God" loved me and loved my family, wouldn't have have, you know, stopped my grandfather from dying? Of course not. Why? Because he doesn't exist. And also because leukemia, you know, isn't something that can be zapped away by praying to a cloud. I've lived the past 8 years of my life (since I stopped believing in "God") perfectly fine and I haven't had any problems. That right there proves that you don't need a "God" to be happy or live your life to its fullest or any of those other proverbial sayings.

I'm so sorry (note: extreme sarcasm) that I don't believe in this "God" when everything that we've come to know has been proven to have evolved scientifically. They've been able to prove that life was indeed created by a bunch of chemicals being sparked by electricity. They recreated the environment that would've existed then and sparked the chemicals with electricity. Within hours they had hundreds of these little bacteria-like creatures in the little environment they recreated. I also love how, in the "Bible Ages," people would "talk to 'God'" and whatnot. Why doesn't anyone talk to "God" anymore? Is it because he doesn't exist? Oh, I'm sorry. That's blasphemy. Of course he exists. Just like Zeus existed and threw thunderbolts down on everyone when they pissed him off.

 

I agree with everything you said. Love is an instinct, and you don't need a "God" to tell you that you're in love with someone. I stopped believing in "God" when my grandfather died. If this "God" loved me and loved my family, wouldn't have have, you know, stopped my grandfather from dying? Of course not. Why? Because he doesn't exist. And also because leukemia, you know, isn't something that can be zapped away by praying to a cloud. I've lived the past 8 years of my life (since I stopped believing in "God") perfectly fine and I haven't had any problems. That right there proves that you don't need a "God" to be happy or live your life to its fullest or any of those other proverbial sayings.

I'm so sorry (note: extreme sarcasm) that I don't believe in this "God" when everything that we've come to know has been proven to have evolved scientifically. They've been able to prove that life was indeed created by a bunch of chemicals being sparked by electricity. They recreated the environment that would've existed then and sparked the chemicals with electricity. Within hours they had hundreds of these little bacteria-like creatures in the little environment they recreated. I also love how, in the "Bible Ages," people would "talk to 'God'" and whatnot. Why doesn't anyone talk to "God" anymore? Is it because he doesn't exist? Oh, I'm sorry. That's blasphemy. Of course he exists. Just like Zeus existed and threw thunderbolts down on everyone when they pissed him off. [/b][/quote]
I agree with you, Shade, but see that was definatly not my point of view at all. I was definatly not saying if you don't believe in God that your lost. I was talking about hope, because I honestly am not even sure if I believe in God, just a higher power. And I meant if you have no hope in anything but all that chemical stuff you all are saying, THAT is sad. I know I am tortured not having hope. and again, GOD DAMN. You all DO sound torchured. Stop just reading scienctist and get faith in something else. I was saying, if you feel in love, feeling that emotion, HOW could you not beleive in a higher power? And that whole Marriage/church thing, I don't believe in, so why are you putting that in my mouth? Again, all I was saying about love is if you ever felt that way, then how could you just rely on dust to give you your partner? You guys must only here what you want, On every ####### post about life all you LPA'ers list the scientific ####.

And Will? People die. God isn't there to make your life perfect. That was really harsh but, Damn. I stopped believing in God when I found out my mom does pot and my dad dosen't want me and both sides of my family or f^cked up and don't love me either. But again, God wasn't there to stop all the bad #### in my life from happening, because trust me I have had more than my fair share, he was there to give me hope that life would get better. Do any of you get what I'm saying? Come to think of it, maybe There is no god. Maybe though, "God" is there to give people hope and make them better humans. I sure as hell no he's there for hope. Do you get what I'm saying?? Dude, none of my post was to make anyone run to their nearist church and go teach people about how other PEOPLE tell them god wants them to live. It was mainly to open a persons mind and maybe give them hope. Not in "god", but for something. Sorry if I offended either of you I get both your points. Obviously you didn't get mine.

 

Don't get your panties in a bunch just because we don't agree with what you're saying.

 

Damn, did you even read what I wrote back to you? I didn't say ANYTHINg about you agreeing with me man, we were all just trying to state our opinions. I was purely clearing you up.

 

Damn, did you even read what I wrote back to you? I didn't say ANYTHINg about you agreeing with me man, we were all just trying to state our opinions. I was purely clearing you up. [/b][/quote]
Clearing me up? There was nothing to clear up. I was perfectly clear. You're the one who thinks I'm tortured because I choose to believe in the facts instead of a guy that doesn't exist.

 

Clearing me up? There was nothing to clear up. I was perfectly clear. You're the one who thinks I'm tortured because I choose to believe in the facts instead of a guy that doesn't exist. [/b][/quote]
Oh my ####### god dude. Everyone on here ####### twists my words around so they can say ####. That's NOT what I was even ####### saying. I cleared you two up on what I MEANT not what you thought I meant. I only said tortued because with no hope, life sucks. Atleast it did for me. You must have not listened to anything I said. I didn't even suggest to believe in God. All I have been saying all along is that God is hope for alot of people. I said you should find some hope instead of thinking everything in your life has to be bad. There's a reason for everything. Look I'm sorry, I just want to open someones mind and MAYBE give someone hope in SOMETHING, so be it if thats not God. And just so everyone knows, I didn't mean tortured how you think. I meant if you have no hope or faith in anything but science, that must be torcher.

 

lol. That was really inciteful (sp?) People do cling to their theories. But I can't really blame them. I mean.... Reality is harsh, but for example, I don't beleive in religion and not sure about god, but believeing in SOMETHING gives you hope, ya know?

And I think with the baby thing.... This is exactly what I was trying to say. People are overwhelmed and can't imagen having something so amazing happening without a "God" I've never thought of it as people thinking God made it.. but lol yeah. Good point.

 

Don't double post.

 

I didn't mean to I didn't even think about it.

 

"I was talking about hope, because I honestly am not even sure if I believe in God, just a higher power. And I meant if you have no hope in anything but all that chemical stuff you all are saying, THAT is sad."

Yes, because believing in scientific phenominon is so much more sad and worthless than living one's life by a book that was written by tons and tons of people with tons of room for bias, limited proof, countless contradictions and mystical superheroes.

"I know I am tortured not having hope. and again, GOD DAMN. You all DO sound torchured. Stop just reading scienctist and get faith in something else."

Where do I sound tortured? Last I checked my entire post was completely positive about my life in general, so I guess your just making that up, or as you like to put it, putting words in my mouth. Yeah, I guess those 6 years of science in grade school were completley pointless, I should just forget all of them. While we're at it, lets ban the teaching of evolution too.

"I was saying, if you feel in love, feeling that emotion, HOW could you not beleive in a higher power?"

Already explained this in my last post. Next time try reading it.

"And that whole Marriage/church thing, I don't believe in, so why are you putting that in my mouth?"

By saying one should believe in higher powers if they believe in love, you are implicitly saying that marriage (a function of love) is related to higher powers ie God. The church relates to god, hence comes my statements about marriage relating to the church. So no I "did not put words in your mouth". I was simply defending how one could believe in love without believing in a higher power, you know, the part you didn't read.

"All I have been saying all along is that God is hope for alot of people."

No, what you've been saying is how we, members of the LPA, should stop reading "scientific crap" and believe in higher powers. That's what this whole argument is about.

And for the last time.... Just because we dont' believe in higher powers doesn't mean we walk around 'tortured' or 'hopeless' or anything like that. We live happy lives too.

 

I always ask life questions like that and I scare my friends by asking them. It might be fake, it might be a prison, but then the life prison isn't too bad.

 

Um look dude, I DID read your post. I read BOTH of your posts very, very theraly down to every word so I could reply. I don't even think you read mine because I've corrected what you thought I meant to what I actually did I don't know how many times in my replies. SO would you just listen so I don't have to do this again? I'm sure your trying to make me out to look like you were right this whole time and I'm just dumb, but that's not the case at all. And stop putting words in my mouth please.


I never ever said ANYTHING about anyone living by The Bible, in like every other post of mine I have said I didn't believe in it.

And AGAIN, in my last post I CORRECTED your view of what you thought I said. And you OBVIOUSLY wrote it because you did just quote it damn, read it.


And AGAIN I did NOT say "one should believe in a higher power if they believed in love" I asked QUOTED; "How could you have all the feelings of love and not beleive in a higher power?" I was SIMPLY asking you if you would fall in love, how could you not believe ANYTHING but the proof is real?


And NO I did NOT say you "Lpa members should stop reading scientific crap and believe in a higher power"

GOD stop putting #### in my mouth. it's right there in my post. I SAID, God brings hope to alot of people, ALL I said was "Find your hope" And for the last time, I CLEARED YOU UP HOW MANY TIMES? Dude WTF..... I SAID "I WAS TORTURED NOT HAVING HOPE... " Godddddddd man.

 

Um look dude, I DID read your post. I read BOTH of your posts very, very theraly down to every word so I could reply. I don't even think you read mine because I've corrected what you thought I meant to what I actually did I don't know how many times in my replies. SO would you just listen so I don't have to do this again? I'm sure your trying to make me out to look like you were right this whole time and I'm just dumb, but that's not the case at all. And stop putting words in my mouth please.


I never ever said ANYTHING about anyone living by The Bible, in like every other post of mine I have said I didn't believe in it.

And AGAIN, in my last post I CORRECTED your view of what you thought I said. And you OBVIOUSLY wrote it because you did just quote it damn, read it.


And AGAIN I did NOT say "one should believe in a higher power if they believed in love" I asked QUOTED; "How could you have all the feelings of love and not beleive in a higher power?" I was SIMPLY asking you if you would fall in love, how could you not believe ANYTHING but the proof is real?


And NO I did NOT say you "Lpa members should stop reading scientific crap and believe in a higher power"

GOD stop putting #### in my mouth. it's right there in my post. I SAID, God brings hope to alot of people, ALL I said was "Find your hope" And for the last time, I CLEARED YOU UP HOW MANY TIMES? Dude WTF..... I SAID "I WAS TORTURED NOT HAVING HOPE... " Godddddddd man. [/b][/quote]
lets all calm down now. breathing, people... :wth:

now. back to life theories...

 

So...I have a question. What do u think is "real." Is the life we are living real.

 

i sometimes believe in the matrix... no, seriously.
but life could be just a dream we're having...

 

thats how I want my life to be like
So I could just wake up and start again and prevent myself screwing up at every turn in life