LGBT*+ LPAers!

Discussion in 'Random Chat' started by Lee, Jan 3, 2013.

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    Lee

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    I'm sorry. I didn't know the picture was that big, because I have only ever viewed it on my phone.
    I am trans*, but not transsexual, and I find it offensive when people say the T stands for transsexual because it is ignoring the fact that not all trans* people are transsexual.
    I put the + for a similar reason. There are more than just Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Trans* in the LGBT*+ community. I put the + to include asexuals, demisexuals, pansexuals, omnisexuals, and anyone who has any other sexual orientation.
     
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    Blackee Dammet

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    Alright so, are we supposed to refer to ourselves as "the cishets", or is it like "the muggles" where it's just what you call the not-yous?
     
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    I'm pansexual myself...
     
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    Lee

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    I dunno. Use the word as you please. I've only ever heard people in the LGBT*+ community call cishets cishets, though. The cishets I know in rl call themselves "normal people". Which makes me want to punch people.
     
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    What the fuck, dude? 0.o
     
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    While the entire GTFO thing was rude, The implication you are making by euating that people outside the thread's target audience is the same as the discrimination that LBGT people face is several magnitudes more offensive than what Lee said. It is not the same kind of discrimination. If you want to be technical, we discriminate everyday. We discriminate between different options for breakfast or who we want to go out with; the most mundane and harmless things. Everybody does it everyday. What you want to identify is where discrimination is harmful or irrelevant (ie, assuming intelligence correlates to gender and other such prejudices). Harmful can deny people jobs, housing, or limit decisions people need to make in life. Carving out a safe space for LBGT people to talk does not rob cis folk of any opportunity or property. Its not like you were banned from LPA because of it. You are not harmed by this thread, outside of experiencing rudeness........ which by the way Lee that was really uncalled for.

    For. The. Record. I would actually prefer it that boards discourage "thread haters" from posting in threads not targeted at them. This way people can talk about what they want to and dissenters can create their own thread elsewhere. Combined with enforcing that posts be on topic and reminding people that the ignore button exists, it makes it unnecessary to create discriminatory forum rules based on shallow stereotypes.



    The + includes demisexuals? I never considered myself part of the LBGT crowd. Interesting.

    Also, this is the first time I've told anyone that.
     
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    Blackee Dammet

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    Ok look, this is probably going to upset the mods, possibly get me some serious infractions, but god knows Tumblr blogs aren't the best place to ask these type of questions without "provoking", buuuuuuuuut


    is there any particular reason LGBT discussions almost always immediately start off so hostile? I hear the "well obviously I must really be oppressed if I'm doing this/don't tell me how to react to my oppression!" reasoning for it, but holy jesus it's like immediate 95% of the time. Almost like you're expecting all of "those people" to start hounding on you. Leans more with the Tran* than the LG folk (gay men, especially, seem to be as reviled as the dreaded heterosexual when these type of issues come up), but I just don't get it. It's made even worse because when the issue does come up, it's greeted with a "You can't understand my oppression, because you're not me, I won't explain it, because it's not my job to educate you, and you have no right to comment on how I react/behave, because who are you as cis scum to tell me how to respond to my oppression!".
     
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    Im straight, you gonna force me to not post? Lol ok
     
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    Lee

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    Most people I have met on LGBT*+ blogs say that demisexual is on the asexual spectrum. I'm not demisexual, so I do not know if demisexuals want to be part of the LGBT*+ community, but you are welcome to participate if you want.
     
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    Of course it's not the same kind of discrimination, those that are LGBT face way worse every day, but it doesn't mean I don't find exclusion of people based on sexual identity offensive. I admit it's definitely not nearly as offensive as I perhaps made it out to be in my earlier posts.

    About the thread haters, of course no one likes a hater but I believe that people have a right to say what they think, I've always believed that and I've repeated myself many times, even in the cases where I strongly disagree with the statements against that in which I believe.

    Anyway, the situation has been rectified and now there's no use for any more drama on that particular issue, I think.



    Anyway, speaking of. I'm never going to be able to come out to my parents as that I don't particularly identify as being straight, kind of sad, yes?
     
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    Alright, well. My first post was not intended in any way shape or form to be offensive in the least bit. I'm sorry that I got it wrong and pissed you off by being wrong. I was only trying to be informative. I'm a big supporter of equal orientation rights and have many friends who fall into the LGBT community. What I am growing tired of, and again, I apologize if I cross a line here, is that I hate how anytime I try to help someone out with telling them anything to do with LGBT, someone always bites my head off and gets pissed at me because I am a heterosexual. I'm sorry for airing my frustration here, but this whole "if you're not one of us, you won't get it and you're wrong about it" attitude needs to fucking go.
     
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    It is actually a rather recent discovery of mine. As soon as I read what the definition of it was, I had probably one of the biggest epiphanies of my life. I was hardcore lying to myself until less than a year ago. Unable to catch my own lie because I hadn't the vocabulary to tell me and straight folks apart. All I knew was that something was off about me.

    And then I decided to give up on ever attaining a significant other. I'm too weird and I can't reciprocate. I don't even know what the community is for. I'm rather used to lone wolfing everything.

    If I was you, (and I'm not or really have a good grasp on the situation), and there wasn't a million dollar inheritance on the line or hadn't completed college yet, I would have just come out and if they turned abusive would have scram. Sometimes folks come around. Wait, I haven't really come out yet......... ignore me.
     
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    :dave:
     
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    What the hell is demisexual? I've heard of all of the other *sexuals, but not demi.
     
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    I think the dumb way of putting it is like half way between asexual and ......... full sexual(?). (Asexuals can desire sex, but they don't find either gender or otherwise arousing) A demi would be somebody who does not ordinarily feel attracted to anyone, except under specific emotional circumstances. That's as far as I can say and be general about it, because it's rare enough that I don't think its very specific. The general gist I've heard is "If you think the label applies to you, then it's you. Use it and don't be ashamed."

    I've not once felt anything like would drive me to say "hey that is a hot piece of ass" or something. People are just people. They only become attractive if they look like a crush I have; the more similar the more attractive they are. And the crush would only come around in the first place if I felt some sort of very strong -other- emotions about them, like if I really related to them or something, or they were really able to relate to me. Stuff that only close friends would share in the first place. I have liked a total of 3 people over my entire life, less if you remove the fictional.
     
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    Lol seeing as I am currently only aware of 3 LGBT LPAers I think this thread would awefully lonely without our hetero counterpart LPAers.

    Anyways, using this thread for its original purpose, I tried to come out as trans to my co workers but its proving harder than I thought. I've come out to the girl I work with and she's been amazing about it but I'm getting the impression she'd rather I'd stay closeted.
     
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    I have a friend that reproduces through mitosis.
     
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    I think we should leave this thread alone and let the queers talk.
     
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    Shame on youse guys for making me read all this so early in the morning! *snickers*
     

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