What on Earth???!!! I never said anything close to that. People just need to be better educated about drugs, especially prescription drugs. You need to know what it is, what it's harms are, what it's benefits are, what it might do to your body. That's what I mean about being educated about drugs.
Must I? I said: In reply, you said: So, from what I gather, you're saying we make it legal so that people can be educated better by how drugs work. I never said we should 'ban things out of fear', I simply said drugs that make you impaired should be publicly illegal. Everything that already makes you publicly impaired and keeps you from functioning normally is already illegal. Get high or drunk off ANYTHING and go out in public. Walk, drive, ride a bike, cut some grass on a riding mower, get caught, and your ass is grass. When I said 'publicly illegal', I'm referring to whatever it is that you do in your own home with drugs or alcohol is your business. If you can maintain sobriety in public areas, then it shouldn't matter if you're getting hammered in your own home.
Must you what? I don't know where in your post you explained how you thought I meant everybody should try drugs to be educated about them[I don't know how you got that from the quote you highlighted]. Banning out of fear means banning because people ate up the propaganda that marijuana makes you go crazy and rape and kill. Everyone has tried drugs(I'm including drugs that the doctor gives you, tobacco, caffeinated beverages, etc.), most people just aren't very educated about them or educated on how to live a balanced life and not rely on something like drugs, sex, tv, video games, message boards, etc. to make you feel good. The thing is, marijuana just doesn't intoxicate you enough that a police officer is going to notice. The only way a police officer can really detect it is if you smell like it.
While I agree with you to a certain extent I also tend to believe what I see with my own eyes. As I said in a previous post I know of several people that have gone down a darker route after initiating the recreational use of Marijuana. While authorities do use propaganda to turn people away from drugs, there is a reason why and I've seen it for myself. Minority or not, it doesn't mean to say that it doesn't happen. Quoted for the absolute truth. I love how Marijuana supporters throw the whole ''it's a natural herb'' thing into the mix because it's such a foolish argument. Tobacco is a natural herb aswell but it's only dangerous to our health when people grind it up and smoke it. Same rules apply for Weed. As I've said before though, I'm not necessarily against it and every now and then I blaze a little bit myself. In moderation anything is fine with me as long as people have the willpower to say when enough is enough.
"Tobacco is a natural herb aswell but it's only dangerous to our health when people grind it up and smoke it." sorry sir, that's wrong. it's all the chemicals they put into cigarettes that really fuck your health over.
So you're trying to say that by smoking the tobacco leaf by itself you're not increasing your risk of cancer? Sure enough the chemicals vastly increase how unhealthy cigarettes are (in fact I was going to mention that in the post you quoted) but smoking tobacco by itself is bad for you, there's no denying that.
smoking anything is unhealthy, our lungs aren't meant to handle smoke. you can take the most healthiest thing on this planet, and burn it and inhale the fumes and breathe smoke, and it will be extremely bad for your health most likely. this is a mute point, cigarettes and alcohol are already legal, and that will never change. those two things kill more americans than marijuana (because pot doesn't kill anyone), yet the seemingly "safer" drug is illegal? explain that to me, please. any of you that are debating this issue with me, Babali and Timothy, PLEASE explain to me why something that has never caused a single death is illegal.
Yeah, but more people kill others while talking on their cellphones. Obviously being intoxicated on the road is extremely dangerous. Usually marijuana is not that intoxicating, but if you do get intoxicated you're still in control of yourself to make that decision to go out and drive.
But even this, like.. When you have to LOOK and find the bad because the good is overshadowing the bad. I would think think people would just accept it for the bad and the good. I'm sure people also commit suicide, people kill other people in accidents with no drugs involved at all, people kill other people. Either way, people still die everyday. I just beleive that YES, while this is terrible and we need to take precautions to make us safe, I don't know a single soul (in real life) who feels threatened by Marijuana in the slightest bit. So to have it legalized seems like it would do more good than bad. But I also do agree that, it really is up to the individual. To have the will power and control yourself. I do, I smoke Mary whenever I am with some of my friends. I love it, I have never lost control of myself. I see things more clearly, I can function better throughout the day and I can even be more sociable. I've been a much happier person ever since I started smoking it and it has done nothing but good for my life. That's my opinion, anyone can say "Yes, but." and I will respect any of that, But I think this argument is a little pointless anyway. I bet you have a 90% chance of NOT changing the other person's opinion. Theres no need to get upset about things.
I bet someone high on fucking caffeine somewhere has caused a death, but I'm not up in arms mad at Coca-Cola.
Can someone tell me something they've learnt on one of these spiritual journeys? I'm sure you had fun, and everything seemed to make sense etc. etc., but do you remember shit? Personal experiences please.
Well of course you remember what happened. I wouldn't go as far to call it a "Spiritual Journey" I don't think Pot really gives much of that unless you are a heavy thinker. But If you want to know a short quick experience I had, It was semi-recently, about a month now? I can't remember. But right after my ex broke up with me. Theres a dirt road me and my friend go down after school, just to drive down it because the trees overhang and from the outside all you can see is a tunnel of darkness. Well I pulled an all-nighter and smoked with him and I was GONE due to lack of sleep and the combination of that, plus good weed. Anyways, we go down the road, and this was when the leaves were all changed in color but hadn't fallen. We drove down the road and their was this beautiful GORGEOUS sunset and we stopped the car, got out and I just stood there standing, everything felt like it was a photograph, like time would never end and I could stand there forever, and I was happy and would have gladly done so. I realized these little things like sunsets or the leaves on a tree mean something more to me than being upset about "some girl that didn't work out." My entire being was at peace, truly. Now i'm not saying this can't happen when you're sober, of course it can, but I'm saying I was having a terrible day and it definitely helps bring out the good of the day.
Come on, you can't be arguing with that. Marijuana isn't the kind of drug that makes you act violent. Sure, some people get paranoid. But that paranoia, more often than not, causes them to retreat from people, not lash out at them. And the effects on your health have never (read: NEVER) been proven to be detrimental. As a matter of fact, there are chemicals in marijuana that actually kill off cancerous cells in the lungs. The brain damage thing has never, ever been conclusively proven, and probably never will be proven. Cell phones and alcohol have lead to more deaths than pot has, I'm willing to bet.
I'm surprised the Bush administration never did a "SMOKING MARIJUANA MAKES YOU A TERRORIST!!!!" campaign.
If you're looking for spiritual journeys, pot really isn't the way to go. Unless by "spiritual journey" you mean eating an entire box of chocolate donuts and giggling at stupid shit.
I was more talking about psychedelics rather than pot sorry. It was completely unrelated for the most part, i forget what my thinking was earlier lol, but, someone here (too busy too check, i'll just guess it was Casey ) said something about these spiritual journeys that give them a better understanding of the world. Was just questioning this. Well anyway, I don't have too much of a view on legalising marijuana, It's easy as fuck to get without it being legal and i don't smoke it, so i don't really care at all. But, i think, at the moment, at least in Australia, the anti-marijuana campaigns are fucking HORRIBLE, and do hardly anything productive to stop people from using it, it's all kind of pointless, they probably should give up and make it legal.
Stereotype, stereotype, stereotype. Usually you go on spiritual journeys because you look within yourself. I guess I must just be one of those heavy thinkers, though, because I go on spiritual journeys without marijuana, I just find that it slightly enhances the experience. Getting giggly and eating a ton of shit is a typical teenage stoner stereotype, but hundreds of thousands of other people use it for real worthwhile reasons. edit: To explain my definition of a spiritual journey: A spiritual journey for me are those times where I can pinpoint bad things about my psychology, my personality, and I can work out flaws, I can figure out things that have been bothering me, in the end I can get more things accomplished than previously, etc.
I'm not "arguing" with that. I said it because Casey said weed has never killed anyone. Either way, there are a lot of biased opinions here. Though, I didn't expect anything less. It happens everywhere. Not one person has really gave a really, really good legit reason as to why it should be legal.
Yes they have. It should be legal because it's never proven to do any harm and no one should be able to control what you do with your own body as long as you don't hurt another human being. How is that not a legit reason?