Oh yeah because we all know doing things like that on stage makes you REAL cool. And then people wonder why I can't stand bands like that and crap. Play the music and don't do stunts to grab attention, if you do that, chances are you aren't the best band out there and shouldn't be performing in the first place. Sorry if that sounded cold but that's the way I view it. The only 'shock acts' that I believe to deserve the hype are Manson and Slipknot.
Hey, Manson wore prosthetic tits and creepy makeup and he was deemed a 'shock act'. Don't see how Slipknot are any different, especially considering some of their masks have been pretty fucked. Nothing compared to gorgoroth or whatever that band was that was banned from Germany, but still.
Manson kicks ass I dont think its shocking, but thats you're opinion Edit: Corey Taylor's mask look like one of Org's in LOTR *walks away*
Manson did other things. Slipknot wearing a mask doesn't make them a shock act in the slightest. Because if that was the case, Mushroomhead and KISS would be shock acts, too.
KISS is/was considered one of the first shock acts, since Gene Simmons did/does the blood thing. But then they ruined it by taking off the paint and co-writing songs with Michael Bolton. Anyways, Derek, that's nice if you don't want to acknowledge Gorgoroth's exsistence. The fact is, the metal scene in Norway (and all of Europe basically) is far different from our metal scene. They burn down churches and murder rival frontmen. I can't find a valid excuse to tell you, but it's just the way it is. I like the music, the acts on stage aren't acts, some of them really believe in what they're doing (slaughtering animals = offering to Satan, etc). Not saying Gaah is Satanic, but most of them that burn the chapels in Norway are doing it for a reason, not just for pety 'shock value'.
I just dont understand the purpose for it. I'm sure you all remember the Deftones/Linkin Park thing only a few months ago. That'd be like Chaz going up to Chino and saying "I hate you" and then blowing his brains out. There's absolutely no sense in it, and as good as the band's music could possibly be to some people, its ignorant and moronic.
That's because they're from a completely different culture and they take their music far more seriously than anyone here does.
Point taken. I just hope we never have a band like that here in America. They can stay over in Europe.
Exactly. While metal bands hear sing about Satan in their lyrics, bands in Norway and other places are actually living it. This isn't meant to be a stage act Derek, it's for real. You can say it's moronic, but the fact is you're not involved in the culture and that type of music, so you won't understand. You're like that Staind lyric, "i'm on the outside lookin' in". No offense, but you're judging something you know nothing about. Also, you say Slipknot & Manson deserve the hype because each band respectively wears masks and fake tits? But a band that does far worse and actually believe in it (compared to Manson, who talks about the same things basically, and only does it for shock value) shouldn't be taken seriously? I fail to see the logic. EDIT: Gorgoroth are going to be touring the US, Derek.
They've toured the US before, I think. [/b][/quote] As long as they dont throw any mutilated bunnies on my doorstep I'll be fine.
I think he means that unlike other "shock rock" bands he knows of Manson and Slipknot actually capture his attention as good artists. Therefore their stages shows aren't covering up bad music but backing up already good music with a good visual show.