Got Something You Want To Let Out Part 2

Ah. Well, I guess you could try finding her then talk from there. Shame she doesn't seem to have an account anywhere though.

 

yeah, but it's ok i just find it hard not to have anything until august, but i guess i just need a little more patience. August isn't that far away and when it gets here then i will talk to her

 

Now im just confused. Josh called me and he seems genuinely frustrated and trying to make me believe that what Joe is telling me is a lie. I just dont know what to think. I want to believe him so much because I love him but I cant put myself in that position. He needs to do something really amazing for me to believe him. But he just sounded so sincere. You're all going to be like "dude wtf" but like...I can tell that he sounded sincere but Im afraid all the while. I want to believe him so much because I love him, I love him so much.

And he's really trying at this point. *confusedheaddeskugh*

 

Let me get this straight, Joe told you all about what Josh was doing, but did he gave you any prove that Josh actually did all that? or what happened with Joe that you were so convinced that josh was never true and he was lying all along? Because how a person can be such a liar and then sounding so sincere as you are saying is beyond me.

 

That's how liars work their magic.

 

I know but man, how can people be like that? for example cry and beg to get back into a relationship while knowing deep inside that they don't care. (not talking about your case, arlene)

People are just so bad sometimes, idk. This world is fucked up

 

Tip of the iceberg I'd say.

 

I wish my friends would respond to me when I ask them really important questions.

 

I honestly don't know what to say. I wish it were some easy thing, where you could just go and ask Josh whether this really happened or not, and he'd tell you yes or no, and that would be it. But it's not gonna be that way, I don't think.

I'm really sorry to see you in this kind of situation, hon, and I know that you don't deserve this, no matter whether it's true or not.

 

Part of me is glad I actually followed through on something. I was genuinely interested in this girl I saw at work tonight and I slipped her my number/myspace to see if she was interested and now im waiting to see if she calls or adds me. The other part of me thinks ive already been rejected and fears the worst. So confused.

 

You did your part and now you just have to wait, at least you had the guys to do it. if she doesn't reply or anything don't be mad or sad just remember that not eevrybody likes everybody, no big deal.

If she does replies then you're gonna be happy because she maybe wants something with you and that's good, the important thing for you is that you did something at least and if she doesn't say anything, don't take it personally.

 

Yeah I know what you mean. Thats why I did it. I figured I might as well try and fuck was it hard to actually gather the courage to try it. Ive never done it before and it was awkward as hell

 

I believed Joe because he has no reason to lie to me, and it's just possible for him to cheat on my easily. A few weeks back he did have a few day old hickey on his neck and he told me some story, I didn't believe the story but I wanted to believe him. I knew that they had had a house party and whatnot so I figured maybe something happened when he was drunk that he didn't mean for it to. I'm just afraid he's a compulsive liar. As I said, he really needs to go out of his way to prove it to me that I'm worth his time. Because him just telling me that he's telling the truth isn't enough for me. It should be, but after all this, it's not. But he sounded genuinely frustrated, trying to make me understand. He said to me, "Have your siblings ever done something, and then you were blamed for it and there was NOTHING you could do to make anyone believe you?" I was like, no, but I understood what he meant.

The thing with Joe, he has no reason to lie to me and he's always been very friendly with me. But I was thinking about it and he does tend to get mad and then exaggerate. Even so, but why would he take it out on me?

So now I'm thinking of both sides and I think "well what if it IS true" adn then I think of all the things Josh did for me, that if he just wanted me as a toy on the side, he didn't need to do. And he didn't need to do those things to get me in bed, either. I had a thing for him forever. But like, he went to my awful ballet recitals, took me on a picnic, pushed to meet my parents and for me to meet his parents and for our parents to meet and like each other, and he always came over to hang out with my family, and he made us dinner, and whenever my feet hurt from ballet he would give me a foot massage even though he has the hugest thing against feet.

So now, I'm thinking about all these things, and I'm still confused. *sigh*

Lord Johnny: He did cry, a few weeks ago. Now, I NEED him to cry and beg and grovel on his goddamn knees. I need something more than "I love you and I'm being honest with you."

Iain: Thank you dear. I'm not really sad anymore, just confused as hell.

Thank you everyone for being there. I seriously have more and better friends on here than in real life.

Sylar: That's good that you took that little step out of your boundaries. Kudos to you. Even if she doesn't call, you tried, right?

 

To anyone with the security of knowing they'll always have a stable family and a roof over their head...I hope you're fucking greatful.

 

It's evident someone is lieing to you, and you should really find out who it is (easier said than done, I know). I'm just as confused as you are. You mentioned how he did all of those things for you, but then is supposedly messing around. You said you found a hickey on him and a girls necklace and some other items in his room, but didn't say anything about it to avoid confrontation. And like you said, Joe has no reason to be making shit up. I don't know the guy, obviously, but even I can see he has nothing to gain from it unless he's secretly madly in love with you, which is unlikely.

I dunno, in my opinion Josh has a problem. Like I told you earlier, maybe he needs other girls to fill that void when you guys aren't together since you guys don't see one another for weeks at a time. In my opinion, this is the route that I'm (personally) leaning towards. There are people out there that feel like they need sex all the time. Does it make it right if he possibly cheated on you? No, of course not. In fact, it's totally unecceptable.

I wish you the best of luck, dear. You are a true sweetheart. And I know I've said it before, but any true guy would be lucky to have someone like you. I hope you find out the real truth and make the right choice in what you do from here.

 

Exactly.

Compulsive liars can be very manipulative. I've seen it time and time again... you catch them in a lie, and they'll do pretty much anything to weasel their way out of it. Crying, getting down on their hands and knees, swearing on their dead parents grave, etc. Nothing is sacred, really.

I know you want to believe him, Arlene, but it seems like he has a mountain of evidence against him. I understand you love him and this is a very painful experience, but it's better in the long run to put your foot down and show that you deserve to be treated better.

I know I'm a bit late at this, but I'm sorry you're going through all of this bullshit.

 

Thanks for the support Arlene. I dont really know what to tell you about what you are going through because I havent been in that kind of situation but it does sound to me like hes just lying to you.

 

I appreciate everyones consoling words and bits of advice. I really do.

Right now, I still don't know. I need something more for me to be sure. I need him to come to me, go out of his way and do something amazing, ride to my house on a goddamn horse and grovel on his knees and beg me to believe him. I need something like that to be sure. Or incriminating photos to prove the other way. My heart is telling me to believe him, and I want to so, so bad. I love him with everything that I am, I just can't bear this. I just can't stand it.

I hate this feeling of not being sure. That's why I like simple math in school. For example, the answer is 7, and this is why. I solved this here, and now you can see without a doubt that the answer is 7. That's what I need. Something to point out to me and prove to me.

Edit: Oh, also, just like something I noticed. In all situations, Josh always has a story or explanation to go with something. I asked him why Joe would be telling me these things and he simple said "I don't know, I really don't know why he's doing this." It seems like he could easily say something like they got in a fight and Joe is taking it out on the thing that matters to him. Like, this is more of a, I-know-Josh sorta thing, because there's ALWAYS a story/explanation and it's interesting that he didnt even try to make up a reason for why Joe would say that. Maybe overanalyzing, but...why didnt he try making up a story, if he's the liar Joe is trying to make him seem?

Questions upon more questions. Fuck this, I quit. ([/end Dane Cook reference]

 

i passed evry damn subject 1 with an A...except bloody math..

 

So apparently I've been MEGA hacked. And some jackass on my s/n is being rude and pretending to be my mother.