Here's what very much frustrates me about this right to bear arms that everyone is up about, and unfortunately, this is going to be a rant about conservatives who feel they're okay. Don't take this personally, if there's anyone here who believes in gun possession, but I honestly think it's incompetent to allow any sort of gun possession outside of the home, especially in a school setting. The 2nd Amendment, which seems to be the most loved amendment by some conservatives, is only there because back around the time it was ratified, people need guns to start a militia. I don't know if anyone's actually ever read the 2nd amendment, but there's a commonly omitted portion of it that specifically mentions the significance and use of militias. Our right to bear arms is nothing more than a provision of weapons to the military, and now everyone thinks that we all should just be allowed to have guns. I couldn't agree more with Todd in saying that the world needs less guns, not more. What good did having a gun ever really do in terms of campuses? Oh, wait, nothing. Because more often than not, guns + school = shooting the place up by someone or a group of people who are probably clinically insane. Concealed or not concealed, guns don't belong on campuses, because all it takes is one person to fucking lose it and start something. While I understand the reasoning for people to own a gun, such as for self-defense purposes, whatever happened to just making smart decisions about where you go, who you're around, and what time of the day you're out and about? I feel like if people were just a little bit more careful with how they composed themselves and went about their daily lives, if people were a little bit more conscientious of how they interact with others...people wouldn't feel the need for guns. But since people feel the need for them, then I feel like loosening up gun regulations is the wrong way to go about it. If you're going to give out guns, you need severe background checks. I could go into the details of how that would work, but right now it's not necessary. Point is, guns are stupid and unnecessary. Keep them out of schools, keep them out of our lives, I think we'll all be happier.
Allowing guns at school isn't going to protect people from the mental individuals that end up participating in school shootings. In addition it will just add to more shootings committed by people who originally wouldn't have had a gun in the first place. Yeah, um, terrible idea.
I'm sorry, but being an idiot just doesn't show up in any of that. I can guarantee you that letting a bunch of hormonal wanna-be-macho college guys carry guns around universities is a horrible idea. You don't have to be a lunatic or have a history of major violence to pull out the gun you have in your pocket and shoot someone in the heat of an argument. Ridiculous idea.
Fuck an argument. I'll shoot a bitch for no reason -- especially if you got that evil eye on me, homey. I'll gut you like a fish for that... Yeah, no guns in school. It completely redefines the term "higher learning."
America needs to toughen their gun laws period. I've heard some stories (not sure if they are true) that a person can walk into a gun store, buy one, and walk out (48 hours later with no criminal history check?). I shudder to think that it's as easy as that, put a gun in the wrong hands in the wrong mind of a youngster, and you've either got a Virginia Tech rampage waiting to happen or a Columbia High School shooting.
Thank you. There's a reason Australia doesn't have shootings like America does. Or nowhere even remotely as frequently anyway... Guns are fucking illegal! They're made to kill people, why the fuck should that be legal? I'll never understand redneck americans, honestly.
I think professors would think twice about getting all uppity over shit if they knew their students were packin'. No, I haven't finished that Beowulf essay, you punk-ass motherfucker!
If it's a Beowulf essay I think it'd be more appropriate if you dismembered them with your bare hands instead of using a gun.
If you want to defend yourself, take martial art classes or something. This "protecting yourself" reason is ass shit, seriously, there are more ways to defend yourself other than carrying a weapon.
I'm on your side, but that isn't the greatest way to argue it. Guns>Martial Arts . Really, if someone has a gun and they have their hearts on shooting a particular person, that person is probably dead, unfortunately. The only way to stop this nonsense is, indeed, gun control.
In my opinion, anyone feeling the need to have a gun requires serious psychological evaluation. If you think it's cool to possess a weapon designed to kill, or if you're paranoid enough to get one because you feel you need it to protect yourself from something/someone, then quite frankly there's something wrong there. No offence to anyone, but the notion of owning a gun is cowardly, primitive and legal or not, downright stupid. The fact that so many people take to heart an age-old chapter from the bill of rights, whilst being ignorant of the idea of how different the world is now compared to when those amendments were made, is absurd. So I think you can see where my stance on this issue might be.
While I agree guns can be bad, I have to say Martial Arts are not going to protect you from an asshole set out to shoot you. Last year (I think) there was an attempted robbery only not far from where I lived at the time and the victim was a Martial Arts teacher. He got shot and died trying to defend himself. Now, I agree that if there were no guns at all then Martial Arts would be a good alternative but until there is adequate gun regulation, it's not gonna help that much.
What happens if everyone has a gun and one person decides to start shooting in a classroom? I think everyone would flip shit and start shooting at people. Or have a lot of drunk people at there parties start pulling out guns?
I completely agree. I think when this subject comes up, people need to think of the Columbine and Virginia Tech shootings, before thinking it is necessary to be able to own a gun on school property.
I know for a fact, if you carry a weapon in your home, you're more likely to hurt someone you love other than an intruder. I'm partnered to a guy who does BJJ (Brazilian Jujitsu) for a living and even he has taught me how to take a person to the ground only if I'm attacked. My brother was attacked by a group of Lebanese people on the street and it was six to one. He's a blackbelt in Kickboxing, and fought them off. Examples of why you don't need a gun. A gun is a weapon that can not only be fired at someone else, it could be used against you. Australian laws are tight when it comes to guns - you know why? We don't want effin' serial killers in our schools. You're more likely to find a derranged kid with a stapler or a baseball bat than a gun. What if you're drunk and have a gun? What would happen if you gave every single bullied kid a gun, handing it to them like candy? You have the American Gun Laws. The NRA can seriously shove their redneck (sorry to say that) heads up their asses and reconsider their actions and how they can impact on our younger generation. It's not protection it's bullshit.
No offense taken, but bro, I don't even know what to say to that! All my bros training for the marines and going to the boot camp and wakin up at 5:30 on school days to train to use weapons to protect us? I know we're in different countries, and I'd like to live in a gun-free world, but the bottom line is some people are dangerous.