Wow Mark, I'm seeing a really new side of you right now. Heck, I didn't even know you were Canadian too.
One reason I love elections: People arguing is sooo amusing. One reason I hate elections: They're damn annoying, hearing about them all the time.
Unfortunatly i'm pretty sure that Conservatives are going to win. They are going to bring Canada down to shit. It's a bad way to go down.
It does. Considering the Conservatives are ahead in the polls and the one party that supports the Green Party's views is second (being the Liberals), one would hope to further the Green Party's view of environmental concern by voting Liberal. If you care so much about the environment and the Green Party's views, your vote is best placed in one of the two parties that most simalarity shares their views, being the Liberals. Vote vicariously.
The only way the liberals will have a decent shot will be if independent and smaller parties ply their support for the liberals.
Actually, Mark, here is where I partially disagree with you. I will vote Liberal, but only because I think its the best way to prevent a Harper Government. As for my actual opinions on the Liberals I think that they have drifted too far to the RIGHT, especially since Paul Martin became PM and Chretien's third term. He's been cozying up to big business and so has offered a lot to the economic well-being of this country...but little great change has been done on the social, cultural, and environmental issues that are very important. They have cut personal/corporate income taxes at the cost of social services just like the Conservatives like to do and have allowed polluters off without minimal penalties. We now have to eliminate a quarter of our emissions to meet Kyoto Protocol Standards. Some of our Aboriginals in the North still live in Third-World conditions. Privitization is creeping up in health care, education, and other services. I'd say a better choice would be to go with the NDP or Greens that offer a more sustainable, issues-based campaign.
And I'll agree with you on the Liberals going somewhat right. But they are in no way in danger of plummeting the way of the American government. I think you might agree with me on that. But on one thing, we're both on the same page, it's clearly a choice of the lesser of two "evils", for lack of a better phrase. I don't see the Liberals as an evil, but when you compare them to the Conservatives, they look almost saintly. I'm just saying that while it's great to support the lesser parties with votes, being the NDP, Greens and Independants, when we're in danger of electing such a hardline right-winged American-esque government with an untrustworthy leader in Stephen Harper, people who think of voting for the lesser parties kind of need to look at the big picture. The Conservatives are in the lead, although minimal, so at this point it's a choice between voting Conservative, or voting for the party that's most likely to pose a threat to them winning the elections, being the Liberals. Not voting for the nearest threat to the Conservatives means that voting Green or NDP can only help the Conservatives. For example, as I said before, the Conservatives wish to bow out of the Kyoto Protocol, something the Green Party is proud the Liberals signed onto. I just think people should make their voices heard for the lesser parties when we're not in danger of becoming the next slave of United States policies.
So, who here is actually old enough to vote? I'm not. Watch how pissed of Mark will be when the Tories win.
You mean that "Newfoundland, CA" wasn't a dead giveaway? And as much as I'd hate to admit it, I'm calling a Conservative minority government.
I never really noticed. I'm wondering one thing though.....if our purpose of voting for the Liberals is to support the smaller parties, what's the point of even having them in the first place?
Agreed, Mark. That line of thought is what influenced me to vote for the Liberals, but as I was saying (and that you agreed with) there ARE some things with the Liberal party that I don't like...but as a matter of fact I just went to the polling station and voted for my Liberal candidate
Since I didn't want my mom wasting her vote [apparently she was going to randomly pick someone. ] I took into account of all the opinions I've read on this forum and others, and told her to vote for Liberals. Hopefully some good will come out of this.
Wow, what a great day. The Conservatives are probably going to win, and the Canucks lose to St. Louis 4-0. So, which electoral district do you live in? Mine's Vancouver Quadra. So far, the liberal candidate, Stephen Owen is winning with over 50% of the total vote. 12 people voted for the Marijuana party, and 3 for the Marxist-Leninist party.
Now you can feel our pain AND GO BLUES!!!!!!!! About time they won a fucking game. Honestly, any team that loses to the Blues really sucks
Fuckin A. Don't discriminate based on nationality...hate all conservatives equally How long is this asshat's term?