So question for everyone. Was Walt's hugging Jesse in the desert a Heisenhug? Or was that genuine? At the time, I thought he was still bullshitting Jesse. And for a second, I thought he might stab him while he was hugging him. But after Rabid Dog, I've rethought where Walt's head has been these past 4 episodes. When he said "I'm out" in Gliding Over All, he really seems to have meant it. Besides "tread lightly" and the "confession" tape, there hasn't been much Heisenberg at all in 5b. Where Heisenberg in 5a had no problems with murder ("it had to be done" was the line he used multiple times), Walt in 5b has been very against it. Jesse pours gasoline all over his house, his reaction is to call him and thank him for changing his mind. Saul wonders out loud if Jesse needs to be put down, Walt gets stern with him. Skysenberg demands he "deal" with Jesse, and Walt still wants to just talk to him and even defends his character a bit. And as we saw in the plaza, he really wasn't trying to pull anything on Jesse as far as we know. They really seem to be revisiting the toxic father/son relationship.
Some of my thoughts, invisible just in case: Jessie is once again being used as a pawn. Hank wants Walt to kill him so he can charge Walt with murder rather than being a drug lord. Based on the future clips and the theories that Walt is dressing like Jessie because he kills him I'm thinking that maybe he is on the run to escape being convicted for murder. With the whole confessions tape there is no way Hank wouldn't suffer if the whole thing got out. Getting him in for something other than the Meth might be Hanks way of bringing him into Justice. At this point I doubt Hank cares why Walt gets locked up, only that he does. So my theory is that he isn't on the run because of the Meth but because of his murder of Jessie and possibly Skylar based on the whole bacon thing. His neighbor being scared of him can also be attributed to knowing he's a murderer. Edit: After thinking about the graffiti I'm starting to rethink my theory. This whole Father/Son relationship thing. It sort of made me start wondering. If he views Jessie as a son and now he's finally making the move to have him killed. Wouldn't Walt Jr. then no longer be someone who is "off limits" on his hit list? In my opinion Jessie and Walt Jr. had almost the same place as each other in Walt's heart. As of right now he has no reason at all to kill his real son but if the need ever arises in the last four episode then what?
I think both. I sincerely think it was a hug that to show Walt genuinely cares about him, but at the time knows it would benefit the both of them if Jesse followed through with the plan of going to Alaska and stuff.
I wrote earlier that everyone else is breaking bad now while Walt is being the more moral one. Even Marie is breaking bad........... when she's talking to her therapist, she keeps bringing up untraceable poisons. On its face, it just seems like she's curious to what he used. But when you think about why they bothered showing that scene, it becomes more apparent that she wants to know a good poison to use on Walt to kill him....at least that's what it seemed like to me.
I think the next episode, 'Tohajiilee'' will be crazy. The teaser video was very vague and nobody seems to know what to expect. With only 4 episodes left of the entire series, I think things will start heating up. Not sure what to expect!
MAJOR MAJOR MAJOR MAJOR SPOILER. Finale and Talking Bad related. It's said Talking Bad Besty (who plays Marie) kept saying "When Walt dies" during filming, having to correct herself by saying "If Walt dies" in the airing it they edited out "When Walt dies" and only allowed "if Walt die" making edits where appropriate. Apparently on the Talking Bad Bonus on AMC's official website it still has a few instances where they talk about WHEN Walt dies. Really major.
Honestly, I have come to realize that we won't get any spoilers from sneak peek's of next week's episode, or from Talking Bad. The teaser videos are so vague, and they generally have nothing to do with the main focus of the episode, not to mention the talking doesn't even remotely match the scene it's from. I will just take it in one week at a time. I have a feeling how the show will start shaping up to end. I think Walt's ''hit'' wasn't for Jesse, but for Hank. I could be totally wrong. I wouldn't even be surprised if nothing comes of this ''hit'' that everyone seems to think will kill off Jesse. The writers aren't ballsy enough to do something like that, we probably won't even see any of the main characters die except for Walt in the end. I just want the ending to be dark, and they keep saying it will be. The first 4 episodes haven't really been dark to me. I can't wait to see how the White's house gets abandoned and why Walt is alone, using his wife's maiden name with no wedding ring, and why he bought an M-60 in a Denny's parking lot, or why he retrieved the ricin. I have a feeling this will happen in ''Granite State'' and ''Felina''. I will consider the other 2 episodes just filler up until the final 2 episodes. Vince said he cried writing the final episode, so I think it will be great. I also think Walt will die in the end, there are many ways he could die, it should be interesting. I also think we can tell a lot from the episode titles, so far they all have had great meaning that we didn't realize until after the episode. Blood Money referred to Jesse's guilt about everything. Buried referred to Walt burying all his money in the desert. Confessions referred to Walt's tape to Hank and possibly Jesse finding out about Brock. Rabid Dog referred to everyone acting like Jesse is some rabid dog that needs to be put down, and Walt doesn't want to put him down. Who knows. Tohajiilee was where Walt and Jesse's first cook was and where Walt buried his money a few episodes back. I think when Jesse said ''Next time I'll get you where you really live'' referred to Walt's empire and all the money he made from it. I think Jesse and Hank will go to Tohajiilee (somehow they'll find out where he buried his money) and do something to it. This would REALLY get to Walt. Ozymandias refers to the decline and fall of empire's and king's, I think this could refer to somehow the start of Walt's empire falling before him. Granite State could be referring to New Hampshire (it's the granite state), or could just simply be referring to Walt's new ID and license plates, since they were New Hampshire tags. I think Walt will hide out in New Hampshire, but maybe not. Felina refers to an old song about an outlaw returning home one last time (risking death and danger) to see his love one last time. This could refer to Skyler or his kids, maybe? Who knows. I do think it's odd since Walt wasn't with his family and he had no wedding ring and was using Skyler's maiden name + arranged the bacon like she did, but who knows, she could still live..
See, without the context of what specifically was being talked about, I don't know how big a deal her saying that is. We all know... Walt is going to end up dead at some point. He has cancer with a really bad prognosis. The fact that he was able fight it off this long is considered a wild success. So I guess it would depend on what exactly Betsy was commenting on. For instance, if she was talking about some hypothetical scenario of what happens to Walt's money "when he dies," then that's not really a spoiler so much as it is an inevitable truth. ...See what I mean? Do you happen to know what exactly she was saying?
Context was how the series ends, I think. I didn't actually watch it, was told and also heard on a podcast. I just find it interesting that they would inject "if" in places where it said "when" Seems that to get people talking they would leave it alone. I dunno. Also RJ Mitte kept doing the same thing.
See, the thing is that I've been expecting that all along, ever since I started watching the show. I don't really care where it ends, but how. And hey, the more things line up to what I expect to happen the more pleased I'll be since it'll be in my "ideal" way.
If things don't start kicking off with this episode, I'll really feel like they haven't stuck the landing on the ending. Before these last 8, the big thing was the cast/writers were saying was "there's only 8 episodes left to fit in all this story, it's going to be a sprint to the finish." And yet 2 of the first 4 episodes were plot set-up episodes. Which is fine, they need time to move all the chess pieces, but there are only 4 left now. It's go time.
I agree. I worry, though. Breaking Bad is by far my favorite show, and I was really excited for these final 8 episodes. I really hope that starting with this next episode, the wheels will get moving a bit. Like you said, the the cast said it's going to be a sprint to the finish line. Bryan Cranston even said ''it's a rollercoaster ride to hell'', which I think describes it better, because a rollercoaster has slower moments that build up, and big fast moments that are crazy. However, with only 4 episodes left now, I don't want any more slow moments. If Dexter beats out Breaking Bad for a good ending, I will be shocked. This next episode will determine it.
Can't agree with any of you, they stumbled like hell with Rabid Dog but every other episode I think really got to the point and set up the next episode really well.
Too much New Hampshire shit to fit in 4 episodes, 3 minimum, not good, the last episode was a total letdown.
I don't disagree with that. And I liked Rabid Dog. What I'm saying is that the slower episodes need to be over now. I just don't think they have enough time left for another slower episode without making me feel like they may have wasted some opportunities.
The 8 episodes last season were paced better than the first 4 this season so far. It just kept ramping up the whole time basically, so you figured these last 8 would be nuts. Not the case yet.
It doesn't take much time for shit to hit the fan in an episode and there's still 180 minutes left in the series.