I didn't know he was lol. haven't heard anything from him since that song about those kids that are struggling or some bullshit .
I don't get pretty much any of those poppy "post-hardcore" (pop-punk with screaming) bands that a lot of you are in to. And I don't really get the arty ones either... Although; I spose I can say I don't understand the draw of punk in any form. I'm more of a grunge and metal man.
The thing is, there's nothing to get here. They're just boring, mediocre bands. Not trying to offend anyone here.
Hinder was like a two hit wonder, really. That one other song that was popular by them bumped them up into that category.