A Thousand Suns Track Times

Are you serious ?


7 Songs are over 4 minutes, some clearly one is nearly 6 minutes one is 3 minutes and a few are shorter?


whats the point of trouble?

 

Your definition of a song is limited to conventional pop conventions. i.e. songs should have a verse, chorus, verse, chorus, bridge, chorus. Just because it is short doesn't mean it is filler.

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Take the Prelude of the Carmen Suite. It clocks in (on average) at about 1:10, but musically it is a complete piece. It isn't filler at all. It serves a purpose.

 

Im going to have to disagree with you there. Rise Against has a song called Fix Me (i think its a punk cover) that is only 55 seconds long, and i find it to be very much worth it to keep on repeat.

 

i think the bad thing is if people start to listen to the album from youtube coz thy will listen to the last song then the first one and then he will listen to fourth one ...and and

then they will lose the connect between the song's ......the short song's i think it's just intro for the next song if people bye the album and listen to it from start to the end
and Forgot about the youtube then i think there will be no problem's with the short song right??

 

Your post seems to confuse me

 

I will attempt to translate:

 

No you're right a short piece doesn't have to be labelled a "filler", I'm just saying that in ATS's case it's more than likely that most of the short tunes serve as a filler between the long songs, in other words linking them together. I might be wrong but this is only my guess. I don't know why the word filler gets a bad rap by some of you guys I actually think it's a good way of describing it in this perspective. You're trying to make out these songs are individual and are fine listening to on their own.

 

This.

As long as the "short" songs on ATS sound good and/or they have a purpose on the album, I don't have a problem with them. I usually enjoy instrumentals/interludes on CD's, and I don't think a 1-2 minute song is any less a song than one that is 3+ minutes.

 

We're getting a new album, isn't that enough? The full songs all seem to be much longer than their normal tracks. What the hell is there to complain about? What if empty spaces turns out to be 18 seconds of pure orgasmic bliss? Wait till the album comes out and lets see how everything works out.

 

I very much doubt it. lol

 

This.

Ntr\Mssion is only 29 seconds long, and I enjoy listening to it as an actual song.

 

Haha, I was thinking the same thing.

 

Ntr\Mssion is not a song - if we're gonna be pedantic about the definition of "song", that is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Song

Edit: It's up for debate whether it's a filler track or not

 

did you even actually READ my post, or did you just skim through it and be like, "O HAY, THIZ DOOD THINKZ NTR/MSSION IZ A SAWNG LOLZ" i said i like it as if it is an actual song. and by the way, you fail for posting a link to wikipedia, just sayin

 

I think we're all forgetting a good friend of mine called A.06
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Less than a minute of pure awesome.

 

Again, the people who don't get the point now will never get it. At least me, you, and a lot of other people do.

 

lol yeah seriously. I mean by all means prove your point but why in the world would you post a wikipedia link to prove your case

 

My thoughts exactly.

 

I don't get why you all are arguing rhetoric of what is and isn't a song.

All the person is saying is that they don't see how a song of two minutes can appeal to them. I think it's a valid complaint to have if that is their opinion. I disagree, and clearly you do as well, but that doesn't mean they're not allowed to have their own opinions.

 

Am I excited for ATS? YES!
Am I disappointed by some of the track lenghts? YES
Am I allowed have an opinion before the album comes out? YES
Am I allowed have an opinion after the album comes out? YES
Can my opinion change before and after ATS is released? YES

Seriously, if people a.k.a. fans have an opinion on the track and album lenght, then by all means let them voice it, whether its positive or negative.
Just because someone doesn't like something it doesn't give anyone the right to hate on them and belittle their opinion.

I've been a fan of LP since 2001 and have all their albums. Love some and hate some of the songs they release. I love Wake (short song), session, TLTGYA, papercut, faint and many more. I hate/dislike In between, Blackbirds, New Divide, forgotten, LOATR and yes...One Step Closer. Does that make me a bad fan? Of course not.
I've paid money for for these songs and have the right to an opinion on them. I've pre-ordered ATS deluxe edition from LP.com (not cheap!) and if there's something I do not like about ATS before and after its release then I should be able to voice it. I love the Catalyst but don't care for the artwork we've seen thus far.
That's MY opinion and some will agree but others won't. Thats life I guess.

I can't wait for ATS to drop so I can hear the new direction LP are taking. Whether I love or hate it, won 't make me love or hate LP any more or less.

Rant over. Sorry if anyone is offended or p-ssed off but its only my opinion.

P.S. - Yes, some of the track lenghts are short but when Wake is played live its now Wake 2.0 (longer). Look at how long the live versions of Faint and BIO are now compared to the album versions! LP are constantly altering their songs for live shows and its all the better IMO. I think the Catalyst has the potential to be over 10min once LP get into their stride and perform it live.