But...Given Up and Bleed It Out were 2 of the only songs that brought up the energy level in MTM, while No Roads Left and Not Alone would have been 2 more mid-tempo songs. You might not like those 2 tracks, but don't you find they were better addition to MTM for the balance of the record? I would like to hear what you think about this
Very simply 2 good songs are better than 2 bad songs. What the hell does pace have to do with it? Let's use your argument for pizza, shall we? Original pizza has Anchovies, Pepperoni, Bacon, Cheese, and Ham. The question is if you could replace any 2 toppings with another 2 topping which would you choose? I say replace Bacon and Ham with Steak and Chicken You say But...Bacon and Ham were the only two ingredients of pork. While Steak and Chicken may be good don't you think that Ham and Bacon are a better addition to the pizza?/QUOTE] I go LOLWUT? You don't have any Bacon and Ham to have a better pizza. So, in conclusion, you don't need to have two more faster paced or up-tempo songs to have a better album.
While that was a nice analogy, somehow you left the anchovies on the pizza. Therefore, it's kind of an invalid argument. Anyways, this is my revised tracklist: 1. Wake 2. Given Up 3. Leave Out All The Rest 4. Bleed It Out 5. Blackbirds 6. What We Don't Know 7. In Pieces 8. Pretend To Be (It's an MtM sounding track. Get over it.) 9. No Roads Left 10. Valentine's Day 11. Shadow Of The Day 12. What I've Done 13. Hands Held High 14. Across The Line 15. No More Sorrow 16. The Little Things Give You Away A finished Debris would come in somewhere right before No More Sorrow, and Asbestos would probably be before/after Given Up. The other LPU12 tracks are too incomplete to place.
1. Clarity (finished with vocals and drums) 2. Given Up 3. Asbestos 4. Across the Line 5. Bleed it Out 6. Debris 7. Leave out all the Rest 8. QWERTY 9. Hands Held High 10. In Between 11. Pale 12. The Little Things Give You Away
Yep, nice analogy. I was only surprised to see a guy, which seems to think that varied records are more interesting than records that consist of the same stuff again and again, wanting MTM to be more of the same stuff. Also, to put that out there, you'll never get a consensual response on the fact that GU and BIO are indeed bad songs. You're more attracted by alt rock than by pissed-of punk rock, that's all. So if we consider them on the same level than NRL and NA, I just think their addition to MTM was a way better choice, since it gave the record more variety.
I'd toss Given Up, What I've Done, and No More Sorrow; and put in No Roads Left, Across the Line, and Blackbirds.
1. Pale (Full song w/vocals) 2. Given Up/Asbestos (some sort of mix of the two) 3. Leave Out All The Rest 4. Bleed It Out 5. What I've Done 6. Blackbirds 8. Debris (Finished) 9. No More Sorrow 10. Across The Line (finished - even though it practically is) 11. In Pieces 12. QWERTY 13. What We Don't Know (finished) 14. No Roads Left 15. The Little Things Give You Away
1. No More Sorrow 2. Debris 3. Bleed It Out 4. In Pieces 5. Leave Out All The Rest 6. In Between Yep, should have just been an EP. lolz All of the other songs from the era are largely baf.
I would actually leave it as is. The statement that the album was intended to make has done so. It was done well, in fact. I got No Roads Left with my digital preorder through Itunes, so I consider it an "extra track," if you will, on the album. The extra couple of finished songs that we got out of the mix are a nice touch as B-sides, and to this day I still think of them as such.
Diverse albums are more interesting, but a diverse album that consists of bad (imo) tracks is still a bad album no matter how diverse it may be. You can have an album that has country, dubstep, bluegrass, and A Capella but if all the tracks are bad, it doesn't matter.
1.) Pale 2.) Given Up 3.) Asbestos or Grecian 4.) What We Don't Know 5.) What I've Done 6.) Pretend To Be 7.) Bleed It Out 8.) QWERTY 9.) Shadow Of The Day 10.) Across The Line 11.) Leave Out All The Rest 12.) No More Sorrow 13.) Hands Held High 14.) Valentine's Day 15.) In Pieces 16.) Debris 17.) No Roads Left
It's fine as it is. Even if I don't like In Between and Hands Held High. And I thought Blackbirds was post MTM?
Nope. It was made during the MTM session, we can even hear a Blackbirds snippet during either the MTM making of or a LPTV related to the making of MTM (can't remember!) Anyway, since I still haven't answered the thread subject, I'd have loved MTM to be half punky (in the vein of Given Up, Qwerty, Asbestos), and half "darky" (in the vein of What We Don't Know/Blackbirds/Across The Line/ In Pieces) The only tracks I'd never have included on it are LOATR and SOTD, which I'm not a fan of at all.
Well, when they said "brand new", it was more in the sense of never-heard-before track. I can assure you this comes from the MTM session; see this, which was posted way before Blackbirds was released in full form (3:30 mark) [video=youtube;wAZvl2oaB8c]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAZvl2oaB8c[/video]
1. Bang Three 2. Given Up (or Asbestos or kind of a mix) 3. What We Don't Know 4. Leave Out All the Rest 5. Bleed It Out 6. Shadow of the Day 7. Blackbirds 8. No More Sorrow or Valentine's Day (you may choose) 9. Hands Held High 10. No Roads Left 11. Across the Line 12. Pale 13. The Little Things Give You Away
01. Wake 02. Given Up 03. Bleed It Out 04. Leave Out All The Rest 05. Shadow Of The Day 06. What I've Done 07. Hands Held High 08. Blackbirds 09. What We Don't Know 10. Asbestos (if it was finished) 11. In Pieces 12. Little Things Give You Away