In Meeting of a Thousand Suns, there's that bit where Chester goes off about how they should ignore any outside influences that are infecting their creative process, including stressors and deadlines, and just focus on the music. At the time that ATS came out, I really dug that message and felt it matched with the bands ethos. Living Things didn't match up wit that image at all. It feels incredibly hollow and catered. The horrendous mixing and cookie cutter pop rock didn't help. It may be a genuine effort -- I'm not saying it isn't. It just didn't translate as genuine to me. THP is a little more genuine than LT because it wasn't really a marketable product. In essence, I wish the band would stop treating the band like a brand, and would just focus on letting the music speak for itself.