U.S. government shutdown

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    minuteforce

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    Hybrid

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    Hopefully this gets resolved rather quickly.
     
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    minuteforce

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    Yeah. I've been reading up on the impact that this has, a lot of unpaid leave situations and they don't even know how long it's gonna last. Sounds awful
     
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    Luke

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    It's insane that it's come to this.
     
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    Erica

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    It blows my mind how fucking stupid and childish our fucking gov't is! I have never seen a more incompetent group of fuckheads in my life! There really should something in place that says when they fuck up on such a monumental scale they should all be canned (I would perfer publicly executed but i can see how some people might not go for that).
     
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    travz21

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    700,000 federal workers won't be using taxpayer money. Sounds great. Maybe get a real job where you don't have to rely on stolen money to fund your life? You know, a job where people voluntarily pay you for your skills?
     
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    SuperDude526

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    Yes, let's turn over IRS functions to the big banks - I'm sure they'd be happy to oversee their own auditing functions.
     
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    Hybrid

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    I found this article: http://www.buzzfeed.com/alisonvingiano/21-effects-of-the-government-shutdown. What sucks about this is that most everything on that list has to do with education.

    So the scientists, engineers, technicians and the meteorologists that are facing furlows don't have a real job where people voluntarily pay for their skills? Not everyone who "works for the government" is as pointless as you are making them out to be.
     
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    RazorEye

    RazorEye The light on the horizon...

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    Did you know that 300,000 of those federal workers work for NASA, the JPL, Goddard, Kennedy, Johnson, Marshall and Stennis Spaceflight centers and the Ames, Dryden, Glenn and Langley Research centers? 300,000 scientists, engineers, biologists, astronauts, technicians, astrophysicists, government contractors and administrators working together for humanity's future, forced to halt their work because some politicians couldn't agree over a simple healthcare bill!

    Think about this: Michael Hopkins and Karen Nyberg, two NASA astronauts currently aboard the International Space Station, cannot contact home. They only have the company of their Russian and European buddies, who have the ESA and Ruscosmos to contact. They're essentially stranded in space in terms of communication.
     
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    Todd

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    My sister is a federal employee affected by this, and I can assure you she does more work in an hour than you do in an entire week.
     
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    Jesse

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    Damn I feel bad for the people affected by this, for those on LPA that might be and for those that I know who are affected, you have my sympathies and I hope that this all gets straightened out quickly so you can go back to doing the important jobs that you do for the great important purposes that you do it for.
     
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    Tim

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    You could also bring up the fact that the development of the modern internet -- which has become the de facto platform for people to spew close-minded, ideological horseshit, ironically --was almost entirely funded by "stolen" tax money before it ever became a commercial enterprise. But then you'd get some purely speculative response with absolutely no evidence about how the gubmint was just holding private industry back and how they totally would have spent decades sinking money into something similar without any profit incentive, as they are wont to do, you know, just out of the goodness of their pure capitalist hearts. But those researches didn't have real jobs. They should have done something honest, like work at a bank. I mean, why look at the world as a complex, nuanced place where things aren't so black and white when you can just say, "derr herr, government bad, private industry good" and call it a day?

    Now I'll get to hear about how I'm some Obama-obsessed sheep (because, remember, anyone who disagrees with libertarian dogma is sheep and obviously voted for Obama!) who just wants government to grow and control our lives, blah blah blah socialism. Can you tell I've been down this road before?
     
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    You, sir, win the internet.
     
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    Luke

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    That's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. You can't generalize people like that.
     
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    travz21

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    Calling the grass green isn't a generalization.
     
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    SuperDude526

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    I must thank you actually - I've never seen someone so summarily discredit their own ideology like that before. I guess scientists and engineers don't impress you?
     
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    Astat

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    To the people who are blaming the Senate Democrats for "being stubborn" and not accepting the Republican-controlled House's budget that would have completely screwed up the biggest healthcare reform LAW (yes, a law, as in something that has been approved by both House and Senate, signed by the President, deemed Constitutional by the Supreme Court when brought into question, and put into effect already - NOT something that is still a "question mark," as these Tea Party morons seem to believe) this country has enacted since the introduction of Medicare in 1965 - The Democrats aren't the ones who are batting 0 for 42 in their attempts to kill something that was signed into law 3 and a half years ago.

    You want to know how brainwashed the American public has become thanks to the GOP's constant attempts to demonize anything with "Obama" attached to it? Jimmy Kimmel did street interviews the other day, asking people which they prefer, Obamacare or the Affordable Care Act. People OVERWHELMINGLY said they preferred the ACA, because "nobody in this country really wants Obamacare." OBAMACARE AND THE ACA ARE THE SAME FUCKING THING. But whatever...it went into effect yesterday, so this government shutdown is officially pointless. Millions of people have already accessed the new healthcare websites, so it's a little late to "delay implementation" of the ACA now. Not that it matters when you've got idiots like John Boehner running the House, though.

    As usual, Jon Stewart summed up this case of general government fuck-us-all-in-the-assery better than anybody else could: http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-september-30-2013/jon-stewart-s-rockin--shutdown-eve
     
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    Jesse

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    The irony is that the ACA or ObamaCare is the mindchild of the GOP in the first place. It includes a lot of ideas that republicans originally conceived of. Also it is similar for the law that Romney considered his most winning achievement as Governor.

    To go farther into this whole mess most democrats and people to the left don't think the law goes FAR ENOUGH to provide health care. A lot of people bring up that most Americans don't want it, without taking that into consideration that they want a even more cohesive and in-depth law to replace it for the betterment of Americans, instead Republicans just go "Obama is bad, so the law is bad, Americans Agree!."
     
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    travz21

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    Fallacies up in this house!
     
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    SuperDude526

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    I'm afraid I can't see them - would you point them out for me?
     

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