The Catalyst Out Now!

Keep asking and ye shall receive.

 

LOL. Love the song for what it is and stop trying to compare it to Hybrid Theory. I love it and if LP stayed the same they would probably not even be here or be selling out shows all around the world!

The great bands have to change with the times, like Green Day for example. Their music may not be punk anymore, but it's very, very good imo.

Do you expect these guys to keep banging out tunes that were for teenagers back then? The music has to mature as the fans do.

 

sorry

 

by rip i meant rock in peace

 

You really must not know how to read.

 

I've said already that I like Catalyst, apart from the repetitiveness, but I'm beginning to doubt if I really wanted to hear this kind of music from them. If LP had decided to go back to hard rock / rap with this new album would anyone here complain?

"Ohh, we don't want another HT or Meteora!"...
"Move on. If you can't accept change then don't listen!"
"I love LP no matter what they do"

I'm not one of those people who are afraid of change, or dislike change. I just don't think LP have made the right change...

The other thing I really don't understand is why people keep labelling the old Linkin Park as immature, and this new sound is mature. They were still in their 20's when they did HT for Christs sake. So they wrote about their teenage years at the time, so what. Why can't they write the same improving lyrics as now but on top of their original sound - I doubt anyone would label them immature.

If maturity is NOT the reason LP have changed their sound, it has to be boredom... and to be honest, if they're making repetitive tunes like Catalyst then most of their fanbase will get bored too... I just really hope that ATS has something for the old fans..

 

the video exactly matches with the lyrics ,that rocks
i guess the actual video will have parts of this

 

The music in The Catalyst isn't repetitive at all, it's very progressive as it never stays in one place and evolves all the way through the song. The only thing boring about the song is it's repetitive lyrics and even then it's not that big of a deal.

 

I would. The sound is so old and cliché. It's why I consider Meteora to be trash.

That's your opinion and I respect that. I for one love electronic influences and electronic-based music in general (I heart synths), so I welcome our new electro-LP overlords.

Because the whole power chord-based verse-chorus-verse-chorus-bridge-chorus scheme was immature. It's not the lyrics that seem childish. Well, they do. But it's the whole sound in general. The whole songwriting process. If you're keeping the same sound for multiple albums but improving the lyrics, you will still sound stagnant.

If you heard 4+ albums of Linkin Park staying the exact same musically, you WOULDN'T be bored?

A lot of people have been arguing that TC is repetitive. Which I will say, the VOCALS are. If you look past the vocals and listen to the music, it is nowhere NEAR repetitive. It's constantly shifting, moving towards something new. And THAT'S what I'm excited about.

EDIT: Also, since nobody else will do it and I've already taken the role of the resident asshole around here:

You're in the wrong thread FFS.

 

I apologize Jesse. I didn't even see the original "sheep" comment that you explained above, i was responding to a post I saw that was elaborating on not being a sheep. You are absolutely right in everything you said, forcing yourself to like the music IS being a sheep, and i personally wouldn't do that no matter how much I love LP. If its garbage its garbage. Fortunately, I don't see them putting out something that is utterly tasteless at least to my liking.

I think my point is still valid however. Take the song/album for what it is. If you like it no problem, if not - thats no problem too but don't expect the band to cater to your needs.

 

I'm sorry, but did you even bother reading the argument i had the previous pages? All i meant by what i said on my comment was that i liked The Catalyst's drum work almost as much as TLTGYA. I wasn't even talking about how complex each drum work was.

 

Maybe you should've edited the post to say "I like the drumming as much as TLTGYA" instead of "The drumming is as good as TLTGYA." When you turn an opinion into a statement that looks like an objective fact, it's easy to understand why people are interpreting it wrong.

 

You said it's on the same level....you based that as fact. Not opinion.

 

I agree that Meteora is nowhere near as good as HT.. it's like a template they copied but barely tried to improve upon. But why do you say the sound is old and cliche? I'm aware this has been said many times before, but do bands like Metallica change their genre because the genre they're in is old and cliche? No, they at least tried to imrpove within it. So in 10 years you'll be saying that this current sound LP have is old and cliche?

I welcome it to, but in moderation. I just think it's a bit heartless in that they're turning their back on themselves, so to speak.

Structurally immature? or structurally simple? Which is it? Immature in that they weren't advanced enough or getting better with their instruments? Or simple is how they wanted it, and they couldn't be bothered to think of advancing their riffs or time scales etc. so they switched genre to be less rock orientated.

No. I'd love it actually cuz I'd praise Linkin Park for staying true to themselves, like many other old bands have done. And just because they messed up on Meteora, doesn't mean they would've messed up on their 3rd / 4th album attempting it, does it?

I have to elaborate, you're right. The vocals are.. and they're very monotonous. And that's fine, I'll let them off for trying something new in that respect. I've said earlier that this song needs to be heard as part of the album, which is why I'm sceptical about it being a single.

 

First off let me point something out here in what i said in my original post. I said that The Catalyst was ALMOST on the same bar as TLTGYA! So pretty much what you guys trying to disprove my comment by saying how much more complex TLTGYA is really doesn't even make sense as to why you are doing so, because all it does is pretty much agree with my statement! Second off, why should I have to change my post to cater to anybody. I explained why I made my statement in the previous pages, and it should've been done with last night! Can we just drop the damn subject for crying out loud, shit.