Cure for the itch was the song that really got me hooked at the time. It was after hearing In the end and possibly Crawling on MTV and maybe From the Inside. I got this burned cd of Hybrid Theory back in the day from my cousin who kinda looks like Chester tbh and sometimes I think they might be related. And I listened to it from start to finish but interestingly enough I was truly amazed when cure for the itch played. I was into electronic music at the time and when I heard this song I was like "oh shit this is my new thing now. I just found GOLD" HAHA and from that I knew my life was changed forever. My ears were open from that day basically.
I'm here! Though it's been so long that I barely even remember what we're supposed to do in this thread. Give our opinions on the songs I guess? NCSM? One word: chipmunks Besides that, like the lyrics and the vocals, but not exactly my favorite song.
Yeah, under normal circumstances we would get always wall of texts to each song so we can discuss it on 2 to 3 pages
Since I've now passed 3k posts I can finally give my opinion on Nobody Can Save Me: It's one of my favorite songs from the band and just in general. With a perfect mix of wub-wub and distorted guitars, neither drowning the other out it makes for a really interesting sound. Combined with good synths, great lyrics, and a runtime that really let's the song grow and evolve it makes for a great song.
Dang y'all are really letting me feel the heat rn I've got a lot of stuff going on in my life otherwise I would be all over starting on Good Goodbye. I have half a draft somewhere.
My thoughts on Nobody Can Save Me: The chipmunk sound is absolutely awful and horribly unnecessary. However, the rest of the song is extremely strong. It's a nice dramatic poprock song; great melodies, chord progression, all the essential stuff. However if I had to choose a cheesy poprock song, I'd pick ones without cringeworthy chipmunk vocals, like Battle Symphony (where the "chipmunk" sounds aren't really vocals, they really just sound like a synth part, and it sounds great).
The chipmunk sounds at the beginning of Battle Symphony is a vocal. Someone asked Chester about that on Twitter years ago and that's what he said.
Nobody Can Save Me will always have a special place for me. I was on holiday, the album was released on my birthday (May 19th). I remember sitting on my hotel balcony in Bulgaria, sun out, overlooking the beach, no care in the world, just vibing to this song for the first ever time. I'm probably just talking nonsense, but people say songs can bring you back to a moment in time. This song brings me back to that moment in time. It's a good feeling. TL;DR - this is a cool song
here's my official resignation letter just to make it official lol rip forever to the session thread 2024 EDIT: JK SUCKAS LINKIN PARK IS BACK AND SO IS THE SESSION THREAD
Good Goodbye "Good Goodbye" is the second track from One More Light. Although not officially released as a single, a music video was created for the song, and it did receive some radio airplay, particularly in Europe. It was written and produced by Mike, Brad, and songwriter/producer Jesse Shatkin. "Good Goodbye" opens with its chorus, something the band has done with only a few songs historically such as "Crawling", "Easier to Run", "Keys to the Kingdom", and later on One More Light, "Halfway Right". Chester delivers a playful chorus, singing about someone leaving, being kicked out, or otherwise forced to leave, and telling them not to come back. The song trades off between Chester's hook and three rap verses: one by Mike, another by American rapper Pusha T (his second Linkin Park collaboration after the "I'll Be Gone" remix by DJ Vice), and the final by British rapper Stormzy. It is one of the few songs on the album to feature rapping. The instrumentation of "Good Goodbye" is very straightforward with strong trap influence. It consists mostly of sampled percussion and a repeated synth figure, complemented by a sub-bass line. Mike explained that to achieve this bass tone he over-drove it through a sampler to bring out some additional higher frequencies and add distortion. There are also multiple filtered and pitch-shifted vocal accents throughout, such as a recurring "Burn!" sample in the verses and Chester's pitch-shifted "Don't you come back no more" ending the choruses. Tonally, "Good Goodbye" contrasts with the rest of One More Light, being more playful and sarcastic than the more introspective and forthright nine other songs. Mike said his inspiration for the song was largely based around his love for basketball: The song was created very early in the album sessions according to Shinoda. The basis of the hook and verses came together while Mike worked alone with Jesse Shatkin. Initially, the song had two verses and was supposed to feature an electronic drop in the bridge. Eventually, Mike decided against a bridge and the drop, and looked for a guest rapper to take on a third verse instead. The band decided on Pusha T, and after a chance encounter between Linkin Park and Stormzy's managers, also wound up featuring Stormzy on the song as well. Mike scaled his parts down to the first verse, letting the guests take the two others. "Good Goodbye" was debuted live on May 6th, 2017, in Buenos Aires, Argentina. The band performed an extended sing-a-long intro and Mike added back his original second verse from the writing sessions, removing one verse and chorus entirely. They would continue performing it with this format for future shows. Later in July, when performing the song live in London, Stormzy came out to perform his verse, and Mike substituted his original second verse for Pusha T's instead. Mike would also incorporate the song into his solo performances. The first of these was at KROQ Weenie Roast in 2018, where he mashed up the song with "Bleed It Out". During this mashup, Mike would perform the first verse of "Good Goodbye" before doing the chorus and first verse of "Bleed It Out" over the "Good Goodbye" instrumental. Mike would go on to use this mashup in during his solo tours, frequently using it to close out his main set. What are your thoughts on this song? Welcome back to the Session thread!
Good Goodbye is a decent song that feels out of place on an album like One More Light. It's tone and sound just don't gel with what the rest of the album is doing. I feel like the album may have been better served by releasing it as a non-album single and putting Friendly Fire somewhere in the tracklist instead. It's a simple song, but I think its strongest aspects are its featured artists, particularly Stormzy. His voice and flow brings a bit of that UK grime flavor to the song that I find refreshing. One thing I really liked about THP and OML was how they brought in other artists, which wasn't really a thing before those records. Had this iteration of the band continued, it would have been to see who else they would have collaborate with. It's something I'd like to see them revisit post-From Zero.
I agree with a lot of people like @Gibs that the song really is an outlier and probably would’ve worked better as a standalone single. That being said, it was nice to get at least one rap verse from Mike, who imo delivers a solid verse that maybe starts off too similar of a rhyme pattern as his Victimized verse, but manages to switch up into its own thing. A fun battle rap with a solid multisyllabic rhyme scheme from Shinoda, plus his own attempt at the Migos’ triplet flow which was very popular at this time in trap music makes for a fun moment on such a heavy subject matter-filled album. King Push and Stormzy also deliver some solid verses too and I think there’s a nice consistency to everyone’s verse and performance. There isn’t any need for outshining for these artists. Chester’s hook is passable, maybe forgettable, but still adds to that “harmless fun” vibe the track brings. I would probably have preferred Mike to save his rapping for that Sorry For Now demo verse (one of his best imo), but I enjoy this song for what it is.
Well, I really like the intro. Chester sounds lovely, and the melody is sweet. However, I can't stand the chipmunk vocal part afterwards. Definitely has a real negative impact on the song for me. Mike's rap verse has great power to it in terms of delivery, but the lyrics themselves are pretty basic and honestly a little cringey; sound like a dumbed down version of previous rap verses he's written. Pusha T's rap verse is pretty decent for what it is. No issue with it, although I do prefer the sound of Mike's voice. Stormzy's rap verse I have a love-hate relationship with. As a Brit I usually enjoy hearing the UK drill style, and I do like the tone that Stormzy has. But the "now I've got a tune with Linkin Park" line is incredibly cringeworthy. The featured rap verses IMO do make the song feel a little bit incongruous, and while it's not bad, the song ends up being my least favorite in Linkin Park's discography. It speaks to how consistently good Linkin Park's catalogue is. I would give this song something like a 6.5/10 rating. Maybe even higher, as I actually quite like the Imagine Dragons-y chorus unlike many LP fans. EDIT: I also agree with Gibs that this song should have probably just been a standalone single, and Friendly Fire should have taken its place on the album. I am however also of the belief that the album could have benefitted from an extra song though anyway, and if Good Goodbye's chipmunk vocal part was changed/removed (which I could easily take care of using Audacity as the instrumental of the song is officially available) I wouldn't have any desire to skip the song, and Friendly Fire could just be added as an extra track.
Writing this gave me at least a little more appreciation for where Mike was coming from when writing the song. Chester apparently had no conception of the basketball thing and viewed it more like a "When They Come for Me" type song as a middle finger to the haters. I find that incongruity kinda funny personally. I still don't like it very much. It's very jarring going from what I think is one of the best songs on the album to this. I think the chorus is kinda unremarkable, and the lyrics in general just don't do much for me on an album where lyrical work is otherwise very high quality. Stormzy and Mike's verses sound great, Pusha's is decent, but when I listen to the words they're actually saying it just doesn't work for me. Lines like "Good goodbye, good riddance / A period is after every sentence" or the Linkin Park line from Stormzy Toca mentioned just don't click, and I have never been the biggest fan of Mike's battle rap (it has been pointed out by two members that the better term is "braggadocious") style being in Linkin Park overall. But I will say that rhythmically this is one of Mike's better flows with the band. It's definitely down there with Lies Greed Misery as one of my least favorites. Doesn't make it a bad song, but definitely not one I go out of my way to listen to. Unless I'm writing a post about it for the Session thread.
As a former OP, happy to see the revival of this thread! I think "unremarkable" is a great description for Good Goodbye. I always enjoy it enough when I play the album, but I never seek it out intentionally. Add me to the petition for replacing this track with Friendly Fire 100%. However, without it, we never would've gotten the Shakespearean line of "linking tings in parks" and for that I am forever grateful.