Science or Soul?

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    Ether

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    When attempting to understand the world should we appeal to the soul or science?

    What do you think....take the question as you see it.

    Myself, I think in order for me to understand the world....which is most certainly a life long journey...I would probably need a balance, thus appealing to both science and the soul.
     
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    What do you mean 'understand the world'? like... why we are here and how the world came to be and stuff?
     
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    Linja

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    Well, you see, we're here because Mommy and Daddy decided to "take their relationship to another level", and.. :lol:
    Yeah, I'm guessing that's what Ether meant. Maybe just understanding things about the world, the people, the well I'm not sure how to explain it. And as for the actual question, I'd say that you have to have a balance between scientifical and psychological explanations to understand the basic questions and answers.
     
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    Ether

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    I meant like....everything, the way it turns, why things like hurricanes happen, the way people function....everything!

    Does that help or not?? Tell me if it doesnt....I'll see if I can put it in different words.
     
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    yeah, that's fine :p well. basicly. i don't turn to either. both are flawed so i just don't bother looking for reasons why stuff happens.
     
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    Ether

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    but dont you have like morals.....?
     
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    You do not have to be religious or spiritual to have morals.
     
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    You do not have to be religious or spiritual to have morals. [/b][/quote]
    True.
     
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    Ether

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    Did I say that you did.....

    I was just merely pointing out that morals are built on by the things we learn and mistakes we make ect...dont you think that 'morals' as such would either have to have a connection to either the soul or science....think about it...
     
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    soul and religion mentally,physically ,science obviously :p
     
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    I have strange beliefs that are rather hard for some people to grasp.
    I believe in science. I think that is what our world should really be based on. I think any ruler should have an objective view and not think that any god is going to "save them." I also blieve that we have to have our own sense of morals. I, personally, literally can't do mean things to people unless i'm blinded by anger. I'm not guided by a faith, but I do believe in life. I also believe people have an essence.

    To sum up, I think people should live their lives by science, and do what is best for life. Not just go blindly about hoping some higher power will "save them" from whatever harm they have cuased. Life and making the most of it is what is important. Not just your own life, but the life of the planet and the plants. But whatever survives should be for the bettering of everything around it.

    I'm not sure if my beliefs constetute a soul per say. But I do blelieve that people need to have some sort of guiding system from within. Call it a soul or a conscience, whatever you will; science is what my beliefs are centered around.

    I'm not sure if that made any sense, but I have to go to school. So if you are confused or care, I might come back to this later.
     
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    No, morals are linked to common sense.


    I'm not religious, thus, I don't learn that murdering is bad from religion.
    I'm no psychologist, so I don't learn the effects of someone dying truly has on someone else's family. I don't learn that from science.

    I learn that murdering someone is bad from common sense. You kill someone and end their life, DUH, that's bad.
     
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    Yeah...believe in science.
     
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    No, morals are linked to common sense.


    I'm not religious, thus, I don't learn that murdering is bad from religion.
    I'm no psychologist, so I don't learn the effects of someone dying truly has on someone else's family. I don't learn that from science.

    I learn that murdering someone is bad from common sense. You kill someone and end their life, DUH, that's bad. [/b][/quote]
    so morals are derived from common sense. Where does common sense come from then...?

    Isnt common sense based on lifes experiences....that are derived from our mistakes and things we learn.....and what helps us to learn...science. This is my own opinion and you are intitled to yous...but no matter which way I look at it....I find a connnection to both...common sense could also been seen as instinct...and instinct is part of human nature (something within us)...

    Holdiay : I totally get where you are coming from....its called lateral thinking lol ;)
     
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    Alsmost everyone is so focused on finding the reason for things.

    The world could just be completely random, therefore looking for an explination would be pointless.
     
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    if the world was completely random there would still be a purpose...seeking the reason as to why the world is random...

    :lol:
     
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    But if you wanted to answer that, you could pick something completely random and pass it off as wisdom.
     
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    :huh: really now?

    Wow, i'm coplicated. :lol:
     
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    But if you wanted to answer that, you could pick something completely random and pass it off as wisdom. [/b][/quote]
    even then there would be a purpose...a silly one....but still a purpose : The purpose would be to pick something weird... :p

    Everything has a purpose....always, even if there is not a purpose, then the purpose would be to not have a purpose...not that that makes sense, its hard to exlpain.

    Another example could be the lack of an identity....you say you have no identity but still you have one....your identity is 'the person who lacks and identity' ^_^

    Holiday: it was a joke....hence the ;) ...next time I will make myself more clearer! ^_^ Thanks for the amusing quote about lateral thinking though it was very.....amusing! :lol:
     
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    I think it should be a balance of both, science and soul. Religion doesn't necesarily mean soul. I think people totally forget about the right side of their brain and are more focused on the left because that's what you need to succeed in this life. I think most religions go to the left side of the brain. Spirituality goes to the right, so does art, music etc. People aren't in touch with nature and forget that they are part of it themselves, we aren't above nature.

    I sound like such a hippie! :lol:

    Mali, you are the most random person I've met and proabably will ever meet!
     

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