"Recording Artists, Not Performers"

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    Casual D

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    In a very interesting article on his official blog, Mike Shinoda recentely wrote a lengthy post outlining the differences between recording "artists" and "performers", as well as why he feels many bands fail to replicate their studio albums live. While not exactly connected to Linkin Park themselves, the article itself provides a wise and insightful view on the music industry as it currentely stands, and is a great read for any music fan who is looking to get their start in the music business.

    Quoting from the article:
    "My own band has had to deal with these same issues in one way or another in the past. We grew up recording on a computer, at the specific point in time when home recording software became accessible to the average kid. When we met a record executive for the first time, we had played no shows. At that moment, we realized that we needed to start playing live and practicing our new songs, so we could eventually bring them to a stage. It would be years before anyone had ever heard of Linkin Park. We were lucky enough to get through worst of our awkward live mistakes while we were still a baby band, unsigned, without a million people coming to our first show to see what all the hype was about, and by the time “In The End” hit the mainstream, we had probably played 150-200 shows together and worked a lot of the kinks out."

    The entire article can be read here.

    Source: Mikeshinoda.com
     
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    Good article. The issue is pretty evident though.
     
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    I don't really get why Mikeshinoda.com is blocked at my school. Maybe the website that he uses to put it up but still
     
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    I agree with him, from beginning to end. This is why I don't enjoy the "poppy" mainstream music thats everywhere.
     
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    The most authentic, skilled, popular, and true bands probably get the most respect even though people don't like certain ones. Performance is so key, and the concerts from leg to leg is where a lot of the revenue comes for bands. I want bands that don't have the whole package to slowly die, because the bands that survive pack a punch in all areas for their growth. Anyone can pick up an iphone and sing roughly like Tpain or Paul from MTV Canada nowadays, but the pro to it is that we hear can hear a distorted voice thats probably better than the one coming out of the person's mouth.
    The joining of skills in both factors of recording and performance will help bands reach their goals.
    No, technology isn't to blame, in fact its our use of it in the music world that has help so called musicians (yes they are) make loads of dough.

    Ke$ha keeps coming to mind, but I haven't seen her perform.

    in a way I'd rather listen to autotuned voices than someone who is not using it and has difficulty singing a solid tune without it. The line between this areas is clear, and the performance side is small for many bands/artists.
    Mike has very considerable points, and although yes the issue is very apparent, it is juicy - just like that cranberry I went all nom nom nom on.
     
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    Black eYED Peas. Mark wakefield was his friend
     
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    That's very insightful of him. He should top off his thesis with some quality new songs on this new album him and his boys are working on.
     
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    +9000.

    Everything the guys are saying sounds right and like what we want to hear. I just hope that translates to the album.
     
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    It's a very good article. I think a lot of bands would learn from reading that.
     
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    Mike is 100%right. He should post more stuff like this
     
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    Mike has a good point.
     
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    Great article, I totally agree with Mike.
     
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    +9001.

    Yeah thats right, I went there. :lol:
     
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    But..

    THATS OVER 9,000!!!!!!!
     
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    Haha! Win!
     
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    Fail. You were supposed to go: WHAT, 9000?!
     
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    As much as I'd like to disagree that a sucessfull band is determined by the music on their albums, but Mike is right.
    I saw a band recently at a pub. At first I wasnt sure I'd like them. Not my style, my least favourite genre, but as soon as they started playing I was transfixed. They had so much power ane energy in their playing, no matter what genre they where, they where GOOD. They kept their audiences attention, which i think if the most important thing you can do as a performing artisit.

    My band certainly has alot to work on with our live front. We have the orginalitly, style and great songs, but our next step is to see if they work in a live setting, otherwise we might as just stick to doing studio stuff.

    LP is a perfect example of this kinda thing working out. They started out writing & recording songs on their computors,but then they had to learn the tricks of the trade that made them as sucesssfull as they are today.
     
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    I agree 100%! I remember about 3 years ago I went to a concert with Hinder, Crossfade, Breaking Benjamin, Three Days Grace, and Staind in Atlanta, GA, and all the bands performed well except for Crossfade. This was at the height of Crossfade's popularity when they're song 'Cold' was blasting on all the radio stations, but their live show was horrible! All the other bands played with energy and enthusiasm and got the crowds involved, but these guys were just so lame, the music didn't sound quite right, and the entire crowd was sitting down during their entire set. It was pretty bad. Luckily, Breaking Benjamin came in next and brought the energy back up!
     
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    Okay, lets go again.

    WHAT, 9000?!
     
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    Really? When I saw Breaking Benjamin they were the headliner, and everyone but them were good performers, They just kind of.. played their songs, nothing spectacular.
     
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