Osama Bin Laden Is Dead.

Discussion in 'Serious Chat' started by Mark, May 2, 2011.

  1. #61
    El Muerto

    El Muerto LPA Super Member LPA Super Member

    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2005
    Messages:
    5,922
    Likes Received:
    50



    But the difference is that I don't go around wanting somebody dead if I don't know nothing about it. And fyi, I visited Libya and know a lot of Libyan people and although some of them don't like Gaddafi, they all hate the USA for attacking their country.

    Just why was it necessary for the USA to attack Libya? Why didn't they attack Egypt or Tunisia who were in the same situation? Or why didn't Russia do it, or China? I'll tell you why, because Libya has oil. And Afganistan has oil. And Irak does. And Iran does. How can you see not the pattern and talk about a sad necessity of war?

    And I don't need Team America to know what such military operations are like, they did the same thing in Serbia in 1999. Clinton wanted to overthrow Milosevic and ended up destroying half of our country and killing hundreds of innocent people. And although we hated Milosevic, we despised America even more. We didn't ask for any help and neither did Libyan people. And as long as people think the way they do, sitting at their home and supporting wars their government wage, other innocent people across the world are going to keep dying. Just be thankful that you've never experienced a war on your doorstep, because if you ever do, your opinion is going to change drastically.
     
  2. #62
    minusxerø

    minusxerø ohai LPA Addicted VIP

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2003
    Messages:
    18,660
    Likes Received:
    1,154



    I'm going to have to side with all the non-Americans here. A few points: What a leader intends and what a country does are two completely different things. Wikileaks as proven that time and time again, and as someone who has been directly affected by such intervention, it's hard to say that America DOESN'T do these things.

    As backing proof: Cambodia was being run by the Khmer Rouge for a great deal of time. Vietnamese forces along with defectors of the regime attempted to liberate the country from oppression (which you can look up yourself). Guess where the US sided in this conflict? If you said, "the US sided with the oppressive government that thought it'd be a good idea to kill anyone who went to school or looked smart or wore glasses," you'd be correct!

    Quite frankly, the US has quite a history of shoving guns and noses into things that aren't their damn concern. Intentions don't mean shit to the people on the ground.
     
    Last edited: May 2, 2011
  3. #63
    $pvcxGhxztCasey

    $pvcxGhxztCasey meanwhile... LPA Addicted VIP

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2003
    Messages:
    15,889
    Likes Received:
    48



    America didn't pursue an active worldwide manhunt for Usama bin Laden until 2001. He was on our radar, but obviously that wasn't enough.

    And laugh if you will, but the idea that Al-Qaeda just a one big CIA made up excuse to enter into countries we normally couldn't isn't that far off. They're a real terror cell, I believe anyway, but we just happened to have trained and funded them for many, many years. So, in essence... it's our little devil child.

    Anyone heard about this "Lone Wolf"?
     
  4. #64
    deftonesfan867

    deftonesfan867 976-EVIL

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2010
    Messages:
    1,270
    Likes Received:
    8



    Our country is so horrible that people risk their lives to live here...

    Don't like it here?

    There's the motherfcking door.
     
  5. #65
    minusxerø

    minusxerø ohai LPA Addicted VIP

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2003
    Messages:
    18,660
    Likes Received:
    1,154



    Because my family figured, "to be bombed by the US or to be safe from being bombed by the US?"

    No offense, America is great sometimes but it was the lesser of two evils at that point.
     
  6. #66
    Dean

    Dean LPA Addict LPA Addict

    Joined:
    May 8, 2004
    Messages:
    18,858
    Likes Received:
    141



    What does this have to do with anything?
     
  7. #67
    travz21

    travz21 Muscle Museum LPA Super Member

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2010
    Messages:
    4,000
    Likes Received:
    5



    I don't think his death will even change anything. It's just a morale booster for this pathetic country we live in.
     
  8. #68
    El Muerto

    El Muerto LPA Super Member LPA Super Member

    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2005
    Messages:
    5,922
    Likes Received:
    50



    Wow, is that the famous American democracy?
     
  9. #69
    Tim

    Tim My perversion power is accumulating LPA Super Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2007
    Messages:
    7,033
    Likes Received:
    142



    How do you know they don't like it here? Liking a country and criticizing its government's foreign policies aren't mutually exclusive.
     
  10. #70
    Dean

    Dean LPA Addict LPA Addict

    Joined:
    May 8, 2004
    Messages:
    18,858
    Likes Received:
    141



    YOU SAID A BAD THING ABOUT AMERICA! GET OUT! GET OUT! GET OUT!
     
  11. #71
    deftonesfan867

    deftonesfan867 976-EVIL

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2010
    Messages:
    1,270
    Likes Received:
    8



    I know this country isn't always in the right, and our government, as most governments do, make alot of mistakes.

    What does it have to do with anything?

    The people on here pissing and moaning about why should they care that our military took down the most wanted man in the world.

    Seriously...does it even have to be a question?

    Sure it doesn't mean terrorism will stop, but god damn people get so caught up in the semantics of it all that they never stop back and think to themselves "I'm able to post on here about whatever I feel like because of the forces at work that took care of this guy."
     
  12. #72
    Jeff

    Jeff WORSHIP LPA Addicted VIP

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2010
    Messages:
    18,517
    Likes Received:
    341



    Wow this thread has really gotten out of hand. :blink:
     
  13. #73
    deftonesfan867

    deftonesfan867 976-EVIL

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2010
    Messages:
    1,270
    Likes Received:
    8



    Right...because I said people aren't allowed to voice their opinions....
     
  14. #74
    El Muerto

    El Muerto LPA Super Member LPA Super Member

    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2005
    Messages:
    5,922
    Likes Received:
    50



    Yeah but when 99% of other countries make mistakes civilians don't die, it has to do with that.

    And it's a bit hypocritical to consider him the most wanted man in the world after just one terrorist attack on the US soil, when there have been dozens of them before 9/11 and you didn't give a shit about it.
     
  15. #75
    deftonesfan867

    deftonesfan867 976-EVIL

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2010
    Messages:
    1,270
    Likes Received:
    8



    Thanks for assuming that I only care about my backyard vs. my fellow man.
     
  16. #76
    minusxerø

    minusxerø ohai LPA Addicted VIP

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2003
    Messages:
    18,660
    Likes Received:
    1,154



    The thing that got me was that without context, it looked like my family history of being screwed over by the US supporting genocide in my country was being criticized by you saying that if I don't like it, "There's the motherfucking door."
     
  17. #77
    deftonesfan867

    deftonesfan867 976-EVIL

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2010
    Messages:
    1,270
    Likes Received:
    8



    Simple generalization made via a knee jerk reaction by myself.

    My apologies.
     
  18. #78
    Derek

    Derek LPAssociation.com Administrator LPA Administrator

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2002
    Messages:
    41,917
    Likes Received:
    2,472



    The ideas of one bullheaded American (sorry deftones, but your post was rather ignorant) does not reflect the views of the rest of America. Please stop grouping this country into a stereotype. I'm greatly sorry for what happened to Serbia (it should have never happened the way it did), and I'm very sorry Minus for what happened to your family, but that doesn't mean that every single president or administration in this country follows the same mindset. I find it quite disheartening that America has gotten the reputation it has abroad, and it's things like what you said above that give it that reputation. Just because Bush/Clinton were horrible presidents, doesn't mean it's how America as a whole thinks.
     
  19. #79
    minusxerø

    minusxerø ohai LPA Addicted VIP

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2003
    Messages:
    18,660
    Likes Received:
    1,154



    On the contrary, Clinton ran the country pretty damn well in terms of money.
     
  20. #80
    deftonesfan867

    deftonesfan867 976-EVIL

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2010
    Messages:
    1,270
    Likes Received:
    8



    That he did.

    Sadly most people will remember him for his affair vs. his contributions to our economy.
     

Share This Page