Moridin'

I was looking through the LP.com site when I came across this, I'm sure Moridin will remember

I'll preface this with a bit of my own LP history:
I've been a huge LP fan since late 2000, a while after HT (solid record, but put on the "untouchable-pedestal" by many) came out. First saw the OSC video, was hooked and my musical awakening began. That's almost 10 years ago, I was 12.

10 years on, many bands listened to (favourites being Metallica, Tool, Opeth, Joe Satriani, Rodrigo Y Gabriela, John Butler Trio, Apocalyptica, Led Zeppelin, Christy Moore, Puscifer, APC) and I think ATS is hands down the best record LP have released. I'm not putting this post down as a blanket statement for anyone who doesn't like the ATS. Not liking it is completely fine, it's not going to be for everyone. It's aimed at the "OMG this isn't Meteora so it sucks!" crowd that seems to be rampant on this board.

Pixie Ray said:

Has anyone read the interview they did with Kerrang in the Aug 28th, issue 1327? Please, before passing any judgement on my post READ IT. Yes, I am dissapointed in the new album but hey I can get over it and hope and pray they are going to go back to their old stuff on their next album. What has REALLY PISSED ME OFF is that article. Basically, it makes it sound like they stuck their fingers up at their fans.

Cillian: No no no, you're all wrong there dude. They flipped off the "fans" who think the fact they bought a CD or gig ticket that they can dictate to the band what kind of music they should be writing. Reading your post, you would fall into that category.

Fan: They wanted to do something different and couldn't give a shit what anyone else thought.

Cillian: Damn straight, & more power too them. They shouldn't give a shit what the fans want them to write. If you like it good, enjoy the ride while it lasts. If you don't like it fine, you can get off whenever you want.

Fan: That really upset me. After all, without their fans where the hell would they be?

Cillian: This is the attitude that I find mindboggling.
It doesn't matter and it's very arrogant to assume you can hold the "where would you be without us" card over their head to try to control them. They can and do show their appreciation in other ways.

If you became a fan when they were doing what they wanted, why should they stop doing what they want after that point? To keep you spending money on them?
If you answered "Yes" to that then you actually want them to sell out. That's "sell out" in it's true form -- The sacrifice of artistic integrity for monetary gain.

Fan: Yes, you are the artists and should be allowed to do what you like with your music. But shouldn't they also consider others, especially their fans when they are the ones supporting them, listening to them, cheering them on?

Cillian: No! They shouldn't consider anyone else. At all. And that paragraph is totally contradictory. "Yeah, do what you want, just as long as it's what I want you to do."

Buying their CD doesn't give you an in to tell them what to do, nor does it obligate the band to cater to your whims.
Full stop. Period. End of fucking story.

Fan: Instead, they sounded like selfish egotistical twats that wanted to do what they wanted to do and couldn't give a shit on what others thought.

Cillian: They must be selfish and controlling if they want this kind of career, otherwise they'll have other people (fans, The Label) interfering at every turn and the end piece will not accurately represent them.

Fan: At one point they said they wanted to get away from the Linkin Park persona as much as possible. Why??? That is who they are! Thats what the fans frickin love!! Thats what brought out this new genre of music all those years ago. I dont understand why they are ashamed.

Cillian:
1. No, they want to get away from what some people think is LP's persona. Big difference.
2. Again no. It's part of who they are. Not the entirety of who they are.
3. That's what some fans love. I for one value artistic integrity and pushing the envelope over keeping the fans happy. es, even if that means they write stuff I don't like. As long as it's from their heart I'll respect it.
4. Linkin Park did NOT bring about that genre. It already existed.
5. They are NOT ashamed of their past records and they state this continuously in their interviews. It's as simple as the old style presents no challenge and is very boring for them to write.

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I'll pose a question to everyone clamouring for LP to go back to writing their old stuff:

Are you the same person you were 10 years ago? Do you do all the same things? Think the same things? View the world in EXACTLY the same way?

If you answered "yes" then I'm very sad that you have not managed any personal growth in all that time.

If you answered "no", then why the hell do you expect anyone else to? Let alone a group of people who have travelled the world several times having many experiences, both together and individually?

Fan: I am planning on writing an article about this. Would anyone object me taking some of their comments as quotes? And if you have anything else to add feel free. I'm not here to piss anyone off and bitch out Linkin Park, I'm still a fan, still love them, just hope to God they show SOME appreciation towards us and get their head out of the clouds.

Cillian: The only people with their head in the clouds are people like you who think Mike should ring them up and ask how you want the next batch of songs to be constructed, and then take it as a personal affront when that doesn't happen. And then have the arrogance & hypocrisy to call the band "selfish, egotistical twats".

This is why I don't come here very often. And if this is where the LPU is headed.... yeesh.

Thank Jesus, Allah, Buddah AND Superman for the LPA, LPL, etc.


Dude pwned

 

Oh man. Before the other day (LPU announcement) I hadn't been on that forum in months, partly because I'd be afraid of talking like that the whole time.