Mike Gives Details Regarding ATS & Album Length

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    KMunkee

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    The length has me a little disappointed...I was hoping it would be longer (OMFG what am I saying?!? :eek:) lol. Ok, *bees an adult* :awesome:
    I was hoping the album would be about an hour. but that's ok I guess. Quality over quantity. I guess that probably means there are some interludes, intro, etc.
    As someone said, 2-3 minute songs would be ridiculous!
     
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    I UBER agree with this.
     
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    I think It's quite likely that The Requiem will be a short instrumental track, like they always did (Forward, Wake), possibly The Messenger will be one as well.
     
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    Guys, do you realize how long a 50 minute album actually is? It doesn't sound like a lot of time but Dark Side of The Moon is around the same length. That album not only isn't "short" but it's an experience from beginning to end.

    An album doesn't need to be 1 1/2 hours long to be a masterpiece.
     
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    I remember Mike saying they wanted to do more instrumentals and how they were/might have less actual tracks. This could be it
     
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    45-50 minutes? :/
     
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    Even if there's 3 instrumentals...we're still getting 12 songs with lyrics. That's more than we got from Meteora if you exclude Foreword and Session from the 13 tracks.

    Again, that's almost an hour. It's longer than it sounds.
     
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    Hey, i'm liking all this...no complaining from me. The tracks sound amazing to me.
     
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    Lets hope so. They could be badass , they could be pulling a Muse here. Also say the album is roughly 48 minutes. Minus 3 for two instrumentals, and 5:45 from the catalyst is about 39 minutes. That's about 3 and a half minutes per track, thats not bad. And some will probably be as short as One Step Closer, Given Up and Bleed it Out; which adds more time to some other tracks. Don't worry guys :D
     
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    Basing it off of the supposed facts from the French mag, we know that 6 of the 15 songs are well over 4 minutes. So if this is true we've got a load of good music time left for the other 9
     
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    Haha i saw this on fail blog ahahahaahahahahah !!!!!

    I srsly think this album is gonna sound like Reanimation, Which would be epic !!!
     
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    I guess that's where my statement goes to "adds more time to some of the other tracks". We will have plenty of good length songs, don't worry :D It will be a BEAUTIFUL album.
     
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    Remember guys...this is 45-50 minutes not including the fan remix. If the fan remix is 3-4 minutes, that's a longer listen right there. We could essentially have a 54 minute CD with the remix. And there's no sense in having a CD longer then that, because any longer and the band would not be able to put enhanced content on the CD if they chose to because they would run out of room.

    For those who don't know: The standard CD cannot hold more than 74-78 minutes without there being a risk of lowered quality or a faulty disc. CD processing plants will ofter make their client sign a waiver if a CD is over 78 1/2 minutes long, because of that very reason.

    At around 50-53 minutes (including the remix) I suppose the band might've had enough room to make it 16 tracks instead of 15, but you have to trust the band here. 15 is what the band felt would "flow" the best and be the most enjoyable listen from beginning to end. I trust their decision.
     
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    Here's a thought:

    What if the French review was correct? Let's say the people from Warner Bros. weren't lying when they said the album has a total of 12 tracks, 6 demo-ed to them. Say there are 12 "lyrical" tracks and 3 short musical tracks (like normal). Warner wouldn't include intro, interludes and outros in a demo, more than likely.

    So here's my theory. we have 12 songs at an average of 4 minutes = 48 minutes. I remind you that there may be outliers, songs about 3 minutes and song like the Catalyst at 5:42. (Yes, the Catalyst is officially 5:42- source: http://www.warnermusic.ch/catalogue_detail-n28-i54391982599-sD.html)'

    I'm not trying to go against Mike Shinoda here but let's face the facts, a Warner Brother's executive under lock and key with a demo would not be lying about information on the album. Does that make sense? And since the length of the Catalyst is correct and confirmed, we have some validity in the information.
     
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    Good post , Record labels controls us all
     
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    Thank you for the insight, Derek.
     
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    wow you just confirmed it alright! good job
     
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    Record labels are not the end all for album information and that article could very well be full of shit. Mike Shinoda even said that they hadn't played the other tracks to Warner yet at the time that article was written. There's no way that Warner could've known any of the information that article claimed because the band hadn't even finalized the album yet. Hell, as of 3 weeks ago they didn't even finish recording.
     
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    The more I think about it, the more satisfied I am with this. Would you really want every song to be 4 minutes long? Maybe it could have worked out but most likely the album would have lagged on and on. Really, let's look at the other thing Mike said. THE BEST BEATS I/WE'VE EVER MADE. Can I get a hell yes?
     
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    As well as that may be and true, you have to go where the facts lead you, and for me (at least) this is were it takes me. That article is not, what you call, "..full of shit.." There is journalistic quality and facts to it that support what was reported. If you choose not to believe it, that is your own prerogative.
     
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