meteora, linkin parks best album

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    linkinpark_ben25

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    do u think meteora is the best linkin park album i do, it has some of the best songs like breaking the habit and from the inside but what you think?? (w00t)
     
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    Muri

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    Yeah,breaking the habit is really good.

    But,
    Hybrid Theory was better. In my opinion. Mereora's good too,though.
     
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    linkinpark_ben25

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    i used 2 like hybrid theory but then i started listenin to meteora and started to realise that i liked the ongs on it better, i admit the hybrid theory songs are good but the meteora songs are better :joe:
     
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    MariosLP

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    Hybrid theory for sure is better.
    Than is the opinion for most of LP fans i think ;)
     
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    Reanimation > Hybrid Theory & Meteora.
     
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    Warning : This post contains flaming of producers and may cause newbies to lose there temper.

    Meteora makes me want to spit at Linkin Park. This is a really pathetic atempt for a Linkin Park album. Sure, comparing it to most sophmore albums, you can say this one's the best. But comparing it to others, this album is like Korn's The Untouchables. Let me explain why:

    Reason One : Poor Production
    Don Gilmore should have a pole shoved up his ass. This guy limits Linkin Park to the point where the only thing they do is use a kick drum or a chord on a guitar. This guy needs to be removed from the production bussiness. If I find out, he's producing the next Linkin Park album I'm not even going to buy it.

    Reason Two : Nothing Different
    I think Linkin Park/Warner Records/Don Gilmore has that "If it isn't broken, don't fix it" mentality. Only some songs have a different feel to them. Songs like Breaking The Habit, From The Inside, and Nobody's Listening have a certain style. But songs like Easier To Run (Sounds Like Crawling and Runaway), Numb (Pushing Me Away), Lying From You (By Myself), Faint (Papercut Song Style), and Hit The Floor (Papercut Song Style) sound like the tracks mentioned from Hybrid Theory.

    Reason Three : Simplicity
    When I listen to an album, I try to look for some complexity. When I listend to Meteora, I was disappointed. Brad's guitar still has that feel to them. The song structure was the same as Hybrid Theory in some cases and some songs sound repitive. This is my opinon but I find the Rap/Rock/Rap/Rock/Rock style of songs very annoying and boring.

    On a side note, I think Meteora was to overhyped a little. Kinda like Halo 2.

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    Testament

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    A lot of people don't realize that Meteora was a great album, but hybrid Theory can't be duplicated.


    Franny-Untouchables was more consistent than Take a look in The Mirror.


    But yes, Don gilmore needs a pike shoved up his ass.
     
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    Honestly, I think that some of those sound NOTHING like you say they do. Lying From You and By Myself??? Haha...Faint and Papercut? I just can't comprehend how you can think those songs sound anything alike, but oh well...I personally don't like Hybrid Theory or Meteora the most....if there was something I liked the most it'd be all of their Non-Album songs in one CD...
     
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    Chris Luke

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    Did I say Papercut sounded like Faint. As you may notice it says Papercut song style. Which means it has the same structre as Papercut. Like the Rap/Rock/Rap/Rock Bridge/Rock. and the Lying From You and By Myself thing is true. But that is my opinon.
     
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    Dean

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    The two LP studio albums are also comparable to the Halo series in that the original was great, somewhat groundbreaking even, but the second was just the original with the good parts/singles rehashed.
     
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    Mark

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    If 'Meteora' was by certain other bands, I think it'd be a great album.

    But therein lies the problem. 'Meteora', when compared to 'Hybrid Theory' and other Linkin Park material, is very sub-par and lacks any shred of creativity.

    The band can say "we put japanese flutes here" and "we used an orchestra for this one song" and call it experimentation and alot of people will buy that as a significant change, but it just doesn't cut it for alot of songs. These small variations hardly changed any of the songs, as they followed the same formulaic Linkin Park style of verse-chorus-verse-chorus-screaming bridge-chorus. This was a watered-down, sad attempt at duplicating 'Hybrid Theory's success.

    I don't know if I can blame the band other than for the fact they let themselves get bossed around by a skill-restrictive jackass of a producer. Don Gilmore is the producer king of making bands have incredibly crappy follow-ups to good debuts. Hell, you're lucky to get a good debut album like 'Hybrid Theory' out of him. 'Hybrid Theory' was so great because it was something new, and the lyrics were great. 'Meteora' is the exact opposite, it's disappointing because it's bland, cheap, thoughtless, and a blatant attempt to duplicate 'Hybrid Theory's success.

    The lyrics on 'Meteora' were horrid. Many people agree. I've never heard the word "pain" get repeated so many times on an album. The themes of the songs were all unimaginative. I know Don Gilmore forced LP to rewrite alot of the parts of songs numerous times. This, in effect, was cheapening their creation. In his mind, he just wanted this album to make the most money possible, he didn't care about integrity. "Don't Stay" is lyrically the worst song Linkin Park have written.

    For some reson, I don't have the feeling Linkin Park know that many of their core fans were bitterly disappointed with the sad excuse of an album 'Meteora' is. Sure, it sounds catchy and nice, but there's no soul to the album. It's just so empty without decent meaning.

    I must say, though, kudos to Mr. Bourdon for really stepping up on the drums.
     
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    After reading all the slams against Meteora I will say that I've heard it all before: "this sounds the same as hybrid theory" or "same old rap/rock/rap/rock song structure", but speaking for myself here I'll say that I've listened to Hybrid Theory countless times and I've listened to Meteora countless times and I prefer Meteora; I can't explain why the songs have more of an impact on me but they just do. To me Hybrid Theory was a great album, one of the best I own, but I only go back to it now to listen to OSC, Crawling, In The End, or maybe Pushing Me Away, that's about it. I can listen to Meteora from start to finish and not get sick of it; that won't happen with Hybrid Theory. Like it or not Meteora is Linkin Park's style and as much as you want to slam Don Gilmore as a producer he didn't compose those songs in the touring bus, LP did. I agree that maybe it was overproduced and some of lyrics leave something to be disired but compared to HT's lyrics they weren't much different; everyone is entitled to their opinions but I will end with this, Meteora sold much better than most of the so called "rock" out there right now, not as well as HT did, but somebody liked it.
     
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    meteora is one of their best, and its not just music to me.....its practically my life...everyday, every situation i go through, and can easily relate to one of its songs...this bad ranting its getting hurts me, and shows that the True linkin park fans will love their music, no matter what
     
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    Right on ;)
     
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    nah i thinkhybrid is the best. im not saying that meteora doesnt have sum good songs on it but hybrid has less hip hop.
     
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    I personally think that Xero made better music. Hybrid Theory EP was great, so was Hybrid Theory. But Meteora was just good. It could have been better.
     
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    i think meteora is a great album. but i think hybrid theory is better. meteora is just too similar to hybrid theory. the lyrics on meteora are admittedly watered down by the band, due to don, but i still think they are good. but i think the sound is better on meteora. i think there is more creativity on meteora musically. i like what Dean said comparing these albums to Halo and Halo 2. but to add to that, i believe if the 2nd was was released first, it would get a lot more respect. but because it is a reproduction of the previous work with some nice extras and a few bad changes, the original is better.
     
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    Hybrid Theory to me is a better listen, mainly because I can't go through most of Meteora without feeling cheesy. Hybrid Theory relates to me because even though all the songs are different in their own ways, they all have an underlying theme that made LP famous.

    Meteora is more centralized, in music, lyrics, and theme. And while that can be good, if one sucks, so does the rest.

    Examples: Nobody's Listening, Don't Stay, Hit The Floor.

    Don didn't write the songs, but he did make Mike and Chester and the rest of the band rewrite it. You remember... the Meteora DVD where you see Don practically saying "this isn't good enough" and so on.

    If you can go and say that Meteora is Linkin Park's "style," then that's assuming that Linkin Park has a set sound. This goes directly against their ideas of fusion and hybrids between the genres.
     
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    As I said the lyrics leave something to be disired and you can blame that on Don, but I'm positive it's the music that makes the lasting impression on a song, it's very hard to like something if you only like the words.

    And you can assume LP has a "set sound" 99% of their songs are exactly a fusion of rock, rap, electronica, and other elements occasionally; this is what made them and what defines them as a band. That "set sound" is just that, basically a fusion of rock and rap overall.
     
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    Htep > reanimation > hybrid theory > Meteora

    So no it isn't there best album , Lyrics are bad and all the songs are about depressive stuff
     

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