Meteora isn't HT2, it's Meteora.

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    EastGhost

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    What is with the LPA community and calling Meteora, Hybrid Theory part 2? I don't understand the consistent level of ignorance when it comes to that. Linkin Park had an established sound in Hybrid Theory, so they stuck with it. Of course Reanimation sounded different, those were REMIXES of tracks. I'm sick of people blaming Don Gilmore and Warner Brothers for the way the album turned out. Let me guess.. at this point you got your fingers warmed up to type a response like "did you hear Halo?", like you are going to prove to me that a few instrumental demos that were released show signs of this album being completely different. Did you all hear And One or High Voltage (any version)? Those tracks were made and sound completely different, especially the High Voltage that was cut from Hybrid Theory the album. Linkin Park has always made something a little different here and there before they wanted to expand on their styles so don't give me the bullshit about the DEMO tracks that you heard. How can you infer that this project had potential to be other-wordly but it was forced to become a carbon copy for sales? Plus there is nothing like "Nobody's Listening" or "Easier To Run" on the first album. I know you guys will come at me with the

    "Somewhere I Belong" = "In The End"

    "Don't Stay" = "One Step Closer"

    "Session" = "CFTI" (really? an ambient electronic instrumental is the same as turntable solos? in what planet?)

    but how is that even possible? I can name a few Sum 41 tracks that sound identical from different albums but I don't sit there and go "oh this track has a rap verse/rock chorus/screamed bridge format so BOOM it's a copy" because at that rate Lost In The Echo and Lies Greed Misery are completely old-school knockoffs. Meteora made the band so much money, and had one of their most successful singles in "Numb" so I can't see how this album is so irrelevant/awful to the most of the members on this forum. I personally call it my least favorite, but that's not the reason why.

    Discuss your opinions.
     
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    Filip

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    Ah, another thread nothing good will come from! :)
     
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    EastGhost

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    Because everybody is too ignorant when it comes to calling the album a copy. It's the band's 2nd album of course it's going to continue on the sound, haha. Everyone here thinks they have this whole band figured out and they know so much about what Linkin Park and Warner "went through" back in 2003 but in reality they don't know shit. The question is avoided by the band constantly because a) who wants to bring up stuff that shouldn't be brought up the the public? and b) it's such old news that it would be irrelevant to mention especially during chats about something NEW.
     
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    That basically sums it up. Meteora continued the sound that Hybrid Theory created. It is a "HT Part 2".
     
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    lime treacle

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    This.

    I guess I'll just stay away. I don't even know if other people have the will to discuss it anymore. No hard feelings, bear.
     
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    EastGhost

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    Yeah but in the sense of calling every individual song a copy of another song is beyond me. And what is wrong with it if it is a Part 2 anyway? Isn't that what nearly every band does? They establish a sound and change when they get a little older? Like Nickelback's sound was cool for an album or two until people realized how cliche and repetitive they got as they continued to milk out the same music. But LP didn't do that, they did it with one album and all of a sudden it's the worst.
     
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    Actually, that's a good idea. I don't like confrontations!
     
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    You lie, sir. Nickelback were never cool.
     
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    The first sentence pretty much says everything that needs to be said.

    As for the label politics behind the album, that's not something LPA users made up, that's something the band themselves have stated in interviews. They've said that due to the massive success of Hybrid Theory, they felt pressure from the fans, the label, and themselves to recreate it. Simple as that. It has nothing to do with opinion, the band has confirmed this several times.

    If you're wondering why a lot of people dislike Meteora, that IS a matter of opinion. You don't have to agree.

    Edit: And to elaborate on the songs sounding similar, well, a lot of them just do. I'm not sure what your question is. They just use a lot of the same tricks. V/C structure, 3 minute songs, heavy bridge at the 2 minute mark, distorted guitar power chords in drop D tuning, lyrics about the same old ambiguous angst, etc. Although you're right, there are a couple songs on Meteora that dare to do something a tiny bit different, and that probably does get overlooked by a lot of people, myself included.
     
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    Sønic

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    I guess the band themselves are ignorant because they also said Meteora was basically a part 2.
     
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    You're fighting for a lost cause here :)

    But yeah, even if it is HT part 2, that doesn't mean it's a problem per se. There are bands like ACDC that have kept making the same records for 30 years. The problem comes from people expecting changes all the time. But it has already been discussed 100000000 times.
     
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    This thread again... :facepalm:
     
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    Yes. Shinoda said some years ago that, within the band, "Hybrid Theory" and "Meteora" are often simply referred to as "Volume One" and "Volume Two", respectively, because of how similar they sound.
     
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    And this isn't a stale argument.










    That's sarcasm, if you hadn't noticed.
     
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    This. The band said it themselves.

    Therefore this thread is moot and is simply raising a stale argument that has been going on literally since the time the album has come out. It's something that the fans will never come to an agreement on and thus it'll just turn into another meteora lovers vs haters thread. I'd rather you and every else avoid wasting their time.

    Thus it's time to say:

    /THREAD CLOSED
     
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