"No More Sorrow" and "Hands Held High" was just them whining about Bush. And that album was released at a time when everybody whined about Bush. It kinda seemed like they were just jumping on the bandwagon. Especially since there was nothing clever or thought-provoking in either of the songs (I'm guessing a lot of people will disagree with me on this...). And I like a lot of the lyrics off of A Thousand Suns. I just don't like W&K. Or any of the speeches.