Do you ever wonder what's beyond both earth and the universe? I don't know really myself but I would like to hear your theorys at least. I always wondered if there ever really was a god. If so maybe it's someone else besides that. Controlling us. Our every movement, thought, or action being controlled maybe by even aliens. You never know. If outside our earth there's a universe.. then what's beyond that? Another universe? And then that universe is followed by another universe, and another universe, and another universe until finally it comes to where we only a spec of dust. Sitting in the middle of nowhere with an alien, god, etc. watching over that very spec of dust, controlling the lives of the billions of people that are living beneath him. Should we take that as a good thing? What if we really are being controlled? What if were only a dream. And when we finally wake up we all die and life will no longer be living.. ... Sorry. I didn't mean to scare you. But seriously. I'm curious about this and i've always thought about it. You never know what's true and what's not so I would like to hear all of your theorys of life as well. Tell me what you think.
Heh, I'd like to safely assume that nothing controlls me. Even though no one will truely ever know (I think I've read some of Aristotles works on this when I was inspired to do so by The Matrix ). I read a good article on SCIAM about the universe and some theories. A bit off topic from this thread though, so I'll link you instead of pasting... http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID=sa...4F483414B7F0000 Also, Ultimately, there are so many things of our own world we don't know yet, I'm not going to waste my brain power about thing's I'll probably never know anyway. However intriguing it may be.
Im very simple so bare with me.... Beyond all this, I belive there's an endless field of swirly colors and a magical place where rainbows dont mean gay, and you can have sex like bunnies but never be called a wh*re, where yuo can choose between endless rays of sunshine or peaceful nighttime, a place where you can have opinions without being called strange for what you choose or believe in, a mythical place where there's total freedom of religion, and no racial profiling, a place that'll never exist unfortunately....
Well, it's very nice to see that you have such hope, and such an awesome place to hold onto. You were right in saying that place will ever exist on Earth though. If anyone believes it will, then I officially dub you Uber Moron. We are conflicted by differences
man, i wrote this evolution article that i havent finished for an anti-christ site my friends and i were going to open up. anyways, i guess ill do a little brief not-so-scientific summary of it since it would be like 5 pages long. okay, first, the earth started to form be condensation of dust into a molten mass and the atmosphere was like hot steam and molten lava and such. then the earth cooled, water vapor became liquid, and chemical reactions created organic molecules the essential building blocks (i.e. simple carbohydrates, carbon-rich acids, alcohols, etc.) so, then prokaryotes (single-celled organisms) formed that were able to live in the harsh conditions where there was no free oxygen. then sulfer compounds blocked out radiation from the sun and the organisms used it to make energy (AKA photosynthesis). then the land surfaces formed continental plates and that whole earth forming thing. then, turning carbon into living tissue, taking out carbon dioxide and returning oxygen, the ozone layer formed. photosynthesis became more advanced resulting in eukaryoutes (multi-cellular organisms). i should stop there with the scientific stuff. so basically, thats how life started and things just progressed over billions and billions of years until life is what it is today. oh, and the whole god thing, i think that started by some parents who invented an imaginary person. they wanted theyre children to behave so they said if they were good, when they died, god would reward them, and if ther were bad, they would be punished. i think it just went all crazy from there, like living in eternal damnation and satan torturing your soul and such. the end p.s. about living things outside of our galaxy, i think its possible. things just have to be in the right place, like distance from the sun and such so that its at a teperature where organisms can live.
I'm a devout Christian, so brace yourself and defend your theory. There are so many holes in that little story you gave you can't possibly explain. How does a load of dust form into a MOLTEN swirling ball? More importantly, you make the biggest contradiction of evolution, the prescence of organic molecules, seem like a magic poof. How did they form? It was shown that the early 'soup' of an ocean we had lacked any elements required for organic molecules to be synthesized. No organic molecules = no life! And I find it impossible to believe that all life came from one prokaryotic organism, there are so many things scientists totally speculated on and so many 'what if's' it's laughable. And I, personally, believe that Adam and Eve was simply a metaphor, a story to explain how God created life. TELL ME you were kidding with the bit about it being created from a parent. The Bible was written down over so many years by so many different people, while maintaining historical accuracy and little contradiction, I don't even feel like getting into it all, lol. Finally, hell is not eternal torture, nor a fiery place. Hell is interperated by biblical scholars as eternal nothingness, perishing, being cut off from the souls of who all you love and care about. I forget the exact verse.... What do you believe happens after death?
okay, i really didnt want to type up the whole thing and i left stuff out. i still dont feel like putting the entire thing up so ill just answer your statements. like i said, the mixture of condensation of dust particles and the hot steam of the atmosphere. therefore, molten lava was the surface of the earth. water vapor= liquid (the most essential thing for organisms to live) when you have water and and the atmosphere, you have weather. lightning struck protein, chemical reactions occured, amino acids, carbohydrates and such, essential building blocks, i basically already stated this. life didnt come from one prokaryote, it came from chemical reactions. exactly.. 1. the bible was written by PEOPLE. it proves the vast population of the human race cant stand the fact that were are alone, that theres no other world after ours. instead of living in fear, they create an imaginary being to worship and believe theyll recieve salvation in return. 2. let say greek mythology for example, the stories have changed so much its riddiculous. the only reason why greek mythology has been dismissed is because no one believes it anymore. therefore, the bible wont be dismissed because so many people follow the religion even though many of the stories are equally as redicculous. dont tell me noahs ark ever happened because that is virtually impossible i was giving an example of how people change the stories about it. i think you just die. i think when you die its kind of like when you fall asleep. you know, when you wake you didnt realize you fell to sleep except when you die you dont wake up. like eternal sleep minus the dreams.
Ok, I'll answer back one statement at a time: I can see what you're saying on the first one...I misinterperated Are you completely forgetting about Carbon? The thing that differentiates living from non living from an elemental point is carbon. There was no carbon in early earth. It's completely proposterous to think that all the chemical reactions responsible for life exsisting happened in a lightening strike. That's just as likely of an event as there being an omnipotent being. How so? It's theorized by the same evolutionists you believe that eukaryotic cells were prokaryotic cells 'invaded' by protein structures. It's even more of a stretch to say it came from chemical reactions, especially when supposedly initiated by a lightening stike, I'd like to think that existance of all live just didn't happen by chance. How can you call it a fact that there's no other world? That's an opinion, there's no possible way for you to know without experiencing it. And the stories in the Bible don't change. Yes, they're PEOPLE, just as you are. Does that make your belief any more plausible than theirs? No, it doesn't. Virtually impossible? I think not. Maybe slightly dramatized, but there is scientific proof of a massive flood corresponding to the time when it was written in the Bible. And the last two of your statements were just opinions. I do believe in heaven after death, though.
I think we're some nerdy kid's science project. :whistle: Seriously though, I don't believe in God, heaven or hell. I do believe that there are "higher beings" of a sort, that are to us what we are to plankton, and we can't hope to understand them because they operate on a totally different level. But I do not believe in a single creator/God who sees and loves us all, etc etc etc.
That's an interesting perspective. A lot of my friends believe the same thing. I'm not trying to convert anyone here, folks. Just posting my opinions.
Wow, you guys are really taking this seriously huh? I stick with my theory of pretty swirly colors, bunny lovin', and no profiling... hehe. Like I said, I like to keep it simple...
this was from my first post.. its not like a specific lighting strike has to hit a certain protein or anything that it should be considered chance. also, there are several chemical reactions that do not happen by lighting. i would say so. the proof of evolution has by far exceeded that of the theory that god created life. i find it quite impossible that someone "creates" beings, watches over each of them, decides their individual fate, etc. and where exactly would god be? its kind of hard to believe that god is "everywhere". the theory of evolution has scientific reasons why it would be true whereas the theory of god is only depicted and interpreted by what other people say, their "beliefs", and ther faith. its just those who choose to believe and follow what they say to make the religion stay alive. slightly dramatized? 2 of every freakin animal!! that insanely dramatized. and, i know about that flood, im positive it wasnt as bad as to drown like half the world and it didnt need to have its own fake story in the bible. i respect your opinions too but im just stating my theory as you are. p.s. suicidalmelodies: good luck on your happy place
My happy place does exist, no matter WHAT YOU SAY! *runs and hides in dark corner and cries* It does exist, it does exist, it does exist, it does exist.....
My happy place does exist, no matter WHAT YOU SAY! *runs and hides in dark corner and cries* It does exist, it does exist, it does exist, it does exist..... [/b][/quote] yeah, that having sex with bunnies thing kind of disturbs me
im pretty sure our little debate was over because hes not even in the forums anymore. i was just stating that the thing suicidalmelodies said was creepy.
Im sorry..... :'( But how was what I said creepy? All I said was having sex LIKE bunnies.... not with them...... JEEZ! You have a dirty mind.... hehe, like me... but I dont think of bunnies that way... I swear.
Im sorry..... :'( But how was what I said creepy? All I said was having sex LIKE bunnies.... not with them...... JEEZ! You have a dirty mind.... hehe, like me... but I dont think of bunnies that way... I swear. [/b][/quote] oh!! i was like zoophiliac.. gross