June 18, 2017 - Clisson, France | Hellfest 2017

I wonder what you're referring to...

 

If that's at me, @minuteforce, I never said Heavy was too mainstream for me. I said it's too shit for me.

And I'll put ITE in my top 10 LP just for the fuck of it. That song is awesome.

 

Nah don't worry, Filip.

 

MTM to me still sounds like "Linkin park" despite the change. OML doesn't sound like LP at all. Songs like given up, bleed it out, no more sorrow, I'll even throw in QWERTY even tho it's not on the album and because that song is fire have that Linkin park sound. I think if the band put a few of songs that sound like "Linkin park" on OML with the pop songs than we wouldn't be having this conversation and the album would have got much less hate. If anything what LP should have done was ease their entire fan base on to this pop direction change just like they did with MTM

 

I'm one of those people and I'll explain my reasoning.

Linkin Park, in one way or another, were always taking a little from the latest trends, barring maybe Hunting Party. HT/Meteora? Nu-metal, and a lot closer to what a lot of the not-Limp Bizkit nu-metal bands were doing than people remember. But they always put their own little "spin" on whatever they were doing, and that helped a lot. A Thousand Suns? Came out right when EDM and dubstep were really gaining ground in the US. Is that an 'EDM and dubstep album'? Not really, but I insist it's hard to argue they didn't see what was going on around them and try "their version" of it. Before going entirely into it with Steve Aoki and Recharged. But for the most part, it was either "their version" of the sound, or what they had done was so old and established (the "U2 sound" of Shadow of the Day, etc) where you couldn't quite say they were being 100% original sometimes, but they weren't completely aping someones style.

disclaimer IN MY OWN PERSONAL SUBJECTIVE OPINION /disclaimer, I can't say the same for One More Light. Not to the extent I could before. That's not Mike and Co. hearing and being inspired by songs they had heard and taking a crack at their own versions of them, it's them almost copying the styles outright. And if the styles were 30 years old, it's less noticeable or blatant than when they're 3. Minutes might not have been setting radio on fire with unadulterated originality, but at that time, there weren't 100 What I've Done or Bleed It Out sounding songs on the radio. Like I said once before to complete bafflement, nearly everything on OML could easily sit alongside a Now That's What I Call Music and not sound the slightest bit out of place. LP have always genre shifted and "been influenced", but this is the first time in my nearly 20 years of following them I've ever really seen them drop any pretense of not being influenced by outside sounds or trying to "make it their own".

 

I hear you. I remember Chester saying in an interview that everytime they make an album it fees like hes in a different band. And thats very true, thats why I think they should change the name of the band everytime they put a new record out lol

 

So in other words, time to bring Rick Rubin back

 

I can't even imagine the marketing nightmare that would be. They might as well just shoot themselves in the foot every time they release a new album.

 

Actually, I think I agree with everything you said here. All the other albums had their own twists on sounds and weren't doing exactly what others were doing while drawing influence. One More Light might be different for Linkin Park but I could name a whole bunch of artists that I could see One More Light coming from. Definitely fits in with the landscape of music today. That's not always a bad thing, though.

 

If you like the landscape, this is definitely good.

 

Even if you like the landscape it's not always a good thing in my opinion. Eventually every thing could start to sound the same and even if you enjoy that landscape you get tired of hearing it.

 

They should just make Pop albums for the rest of their Career, and change the name of the band to Linkin Pop.

 

Same here. I've been saying this for a while now. Minutes was a drastic change in sound, yes, but it still sounded like ''Linkin Park'' to me, I think Phoenix even said that on the DVD for the album. It had about 4 heavier style rock songs like Given Up, Bleed It Out, What I've Done and No More Sorrow and it also had a bunch of slower, experimental stuff, in ways similar to tracks like Easier To Run, Breaking The Habit, Numb, My December, etc. A Thousand Suns was really the drastic change for the band IMO.

But anyways, I find One More Light to be a lot different than the Linkin Park of old, much different than Minutes To Midnight. Minutes To Midnight did have some pop-rock stuff on it, but it was a lot different in sound compared to the pop stuff on One More Light. Compare a track like Leave Out All The Rest or What I've Done to the songs on One More Light for example. One More Light has a lot more in common with Living Things and A Thousand Suns if you want to compare.

 

Sure, but I think it's safe to say that LP aren't going to stick to this sound for very long. I have no qualms with them making music that fits in with today's landscape of music because I know in three years we're going to get something completely different.

Why the kappas? I'd be down for it.

 

Honestly for once I wouldn't be surprised if the band stuck with this sound for the next album.

 

They said they would never make the same album twice ever again, so the next album shouldnt be pop. And if they do make another pop album than they are truly
effin hypocrites than they would deff be sellouts. And IMO that will be the death of this band. Its not like that would matter because they will always be remembered for HT when all is said and done