IVF

r u against stem cell research or against it?
and why?
im kinda for it and not for it...seeing your still taking a life.

 

well IVF does. its killing en embryo.

 

Is that like... Spanish or something?

Most people tend to believe that an embryo isn't necessarily a person until a certain stage.

 

Is that like... Spanish or something?

Most people tend to believe that an embryo isn't necessarily a person until a certain stage. [/b][/quote]
Still, it's alive.

 

Still, it's alive. [/b][/quote]
yeah i agree. its a living cell.

 

Still, it's alive. [/b][/quote]
Everything is alive to a certain degree.

If we didn't kill things because they were alive, we'd be pretty screwed.

Wood comes from trees. Trees are alive. Should we not have wood?

Wood was first used as a way to survive. Wood = fire. That's a justifiable reason to 'kill' the tree.

Stem cell research will save many lives, and prevent death in many cases.

Is that not justified? The embryo, as far as I know (correct me if I'm wrong), is not conscious, much like the tree. For the greater good...?

EDIT: Shinoda_Baby: Bacteria are living cells. Should we not try to eradicate them when we use Lysol to wipe our tables (made of wood, furthermore)?

 

but there are good bacteria (as in yoghurt) and bad bacteria (as in viruses)
a embryo is a cell that multiplies to form a feotus.

 

But there are good bacteria (as in yogurt) and bad bacteria (as in viruses)
a embryo is a cell that multiplies to form a feotus. [/b][/quote]
But there are good embryos and bad embryos. Hitler, for example, was surely a bad embryo.

And what about trees? Are there 'good trees' and 'bad trees?' Either way, they are still being chopped down. It's inevitable.

What about good and bad grain? We should stop eating bread because it came from good grain.

EDIT: And I corrected your post for you.

 

yeah i agree. its a living cell. [/b][/quote]
So what about sperm? Should I not masturbate?

 

So what about sperm? Should I not masturbate? [/b][/quote]
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Maybe we shouldn't reproduce at all, since for every egg fertilized, thousands of sperm cells are killed.

It's genocide, man.

 

I think this is stupid. If u were on a sinking boat and you had the choice of saving one life or 5 billion lives, what would you do? ( I know exaggeration but still.....)

 

I thought IVF was invitro (sp?) fertillisation? Isn't it where the sperm and the egg are fertillised in a test-tube then implanted back into the woman? So how's it murder-life's being created?

Edit: Yeah it is! Sauce.


So no life is being killed-life is being given.



By the way- I spelt source wrong on purpose to see if anyone would notice!

 

I'm all for stem cell research. I don't consider a cell to be a person until he/she is born. I think we should stop restricting this research just because it will save a few lives...we're talking about millions of lives that could be saved. We also need to get the fucking idiot out of office, and put some sane homosapians in that can make some fucking progress.
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For clarification, IVF = In Vitro Fertilization, not Stem Cell Research..

It involves taking the sperm and egg of the parents, growing the embryo in a petri dish (in a lab). Then the embryo is implanted into the mother, if the couple chooses to (or frozen/discarded, if they do not choose one). Tests are sometimes run on the embryo to check for certain genetic diseases (though I think this is optional).

And it's already legal in the United States. People are using the procedure currently, usually for couples who cannot conceive a child.

(go Biotech class!)

I'm all for stem cell research. Heck, I might even go into that field, if the government loosens its restrictions on it. As Saxopiano said, I don't consider it to be a person until they are born.

They can be used to save many lives and can cure many diseases. So why not. There's a huge misunderstanding about stem cells, I've noticed...

Besides, humans naturally have stem cells in their body. They are used by the body to replace old/dead cells. I guess most research is needed for the stem cells located within the brain. Yes, there are stem cells in the brain, but scientists cannot do research at this time to figure out how they work..

 

So what about sperm? Should I not masturbate? [/b][/quote]
That made my day.

Oh, and just for the record I voted for you as "Best Debater" in the LPA Awards...


On topic: I'm for it. I'd argue my case but it's been done in previous posts, so I won't bother.

And while I don't consider an embryo a person, I disagree with the people who said a baby isn't a person until it's born...I'd consider it a person as soon as it gets to a stage where it gained some type of conciseness.

 

Well...the big thing is that they use the cells from embryos.

 

Well I know that stem cells come from embryos.

But I bet most people don't know that there are stem cells in their body.