Discipline

On television a few nights ago, there was a part on the news on 'smacking' your kids.
There was one 15 year old girl who was taking her father to court for child abuse. He hit this girl across the face and accidently made her nose bleed.
The father said that she deserved it because she was nagging him for money and to get a lift somewhere. He said that she was complaining so much and it was getting irritating, so he just turned around and slapped her.
The daughter said that she was bleeding from her nose and no matter what happened, he should never have hit her. She says she doesn't care about her dad and she wants to take him to court. And she is.

They also went on about how parents shouldn't discipline their children in the form of smacking, or anything physical, they say that it has no effect on the children and they just grow more scared of their parents and end up having a bad relationship.

I definitley disagree. Parents should be able to smack their children if they are in the wrong. I was, and nothings wrong with me. I learnt from my mistakes and before doing something wrong, I always thought of the consequnces.
Children go wild and end up really feral when they have no discipline and get what they want. None of my friends were smacked, and they are horrible. They nag their parents, they don't hold a conversation with them and they have terrible social skills. They don't know how to treat other people properly.

Do you think that parents should be able to smack their kids?
Were you smacked?

What are your opinions?

 

I am a firm believer on not hitting your kids. I get really angry when I see it happen. My brother got hit a lot by my dad in the past and that's had a lasting affect on my brother and I. Witnessing it made me sick. I hate it when parents hit their kids. It's not right at all. It will just make everything worse, IMO.

I haven't been hit by my parents and I think they know not to because of the whole situation with my brother. Plus, I'll fight back. :whistle:

 

I agree with it. Not to the extent of getting a belt or something and hit them. Only to the extent of smacking them across the head once or something.

When I was little, I always had a problem putting on my seatbelt. One day, my mom kept nagging and threatening em. "If you don't put on your seatbelt.. blah blah blah." I kept being stubborn so she stopped the car and hit me once really hard. Every since, I always put on my seatbelt. It's sort of engraved in my head to do so.

 

Why would you take your own father to court? What are you going to do, sue him .

But seriously, as long as he didn't beat her with a bat, and it caused no longterm damage, I see no reason why he couldn't slap her. And then she gets whinier and takes him to court... She has some issues. Face it, she's a whiny 15 year-old who got slapped for whining, then whined in court.

If my daughter took me to court, I'd kick her out of the house.

 

In the past my Mum has slapped me round the face and stuff like that when she got p!ssed off at me and i hated it. I really felt like slapping her right back because it drove me mad. I disagree with it. I don't see how hitting your children can discipline them. They will just be in fear of you and what you will do to them next time you do something wrong. The idea is to teach your children discipline, not to scare them into it.

 

"If you love your kids, love them enough to beat them so that they don't grow up to be idiots."

- Maddox

http://maddox.xmission.com/beat.html

 

Maddox is cool and all but you can't tell me you actually agree with that article. Hitting your kids is bullsh*t and I'd much rather give my child verbal abuse then crack them upside the head so hard they're left stunned.

If anything I believe excessive abuse leads to the kids who have strenous relationships with thier parents. Let me smack you all upside the head really hard next time you do something wrong, and then you can tell me if it really made you think twice about doing it again. I doubt it will. [/b][/quote]
A kid would have to have the IQ of a table not to understand that, if you do something wrong, you get hit. Seriously.

 

i belive in spanking for little kids but for older kids..i'm not sure i've been slapped upside the head but that was just to get my attenion or whatever, nothing serious....

 

I agree with perhaps that smack but using other things and kicks? Eh, no.

You just want to hit them enough so they know never to do that again. You don't want to hit them to an extent that they fear you even when they are not doing anything bad. =\

Like Maddox said. There's a different between discipline and child abuse.

 

Not everything deserves hitting. A lot of parents hit their kids because it "makes them feel better." Someone that it very close to me and I love so much is constantly abused by their parents and doesnt deserve it. They do it because theyre insecure with themselves and they do it to satisfy their own sick pride. Its gotten so bad to the point where they are literally afraid of their parents and it is extremely damaging. So no, that article is wrong, the parents are wrong. Abuse is simply abuse and no one deserves it.

 

I agree with perhaps that smack but using other things and kicks? Eh, no.

You just want to hit them enough so they know never to do that again. You don't want to hit them to an extent that they fear you even when they are not doing anything bad. =\

Like Maddox said. There's a different between discipline and child abuse. [/b][/quote]
I totally agree with that. My mom spanked me a couple of times when I was acting like a sh*t head, but nothing that hurt me seriously or scarred me for life. I have noticed that my cousins who aren't disciplined do not respect their parents and run around acting like fools. Spanking your kids when they are out of control is okay, but just hitting them cause they piss you off is wrong.

 

I agree with you.

Yes, sometimes i'm getting hit.
A while ago my father went very very angry on my sis and me. He keeped hitting my sis and i couldn't do anything so i jumped between them and screamed that he had to stop, he was totally out of control. So he grabbed me and throwed me on the floor. Then my mom came in and screamed too, it was very very scary, then he breaked my beautiful lamp and wanted to hit my sis with that piece of wood from the lamp, but luckily my other sis stopped him.
I don't want to know what was happened if we were all alone at that moment.

 

I totally agree with that. My mom spanked me a couple of times when I was acting like a sh*t head, but nothing that hurt me seriously or scarred me for life. I have noticed that my cousins who aren't disciplined do not respect their parents and run around acting like fools. Spanking your kids when they are out of control is okay, but just hitting them cause they piss you off is wrong. [/b][/quote]
that pretty much sums up my idea

 

We're not talking about child abuse, Derek. If you'd learn to read, this is about disciplining your kids. Hitting them to discipline them is just fine. Maddox was exagerrating all the other parts in his article and if you took any of it seriously, you are a sad person.

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Oh, and good job assuming I was beat ritualistically. I was only hit maybe five times. And you know what? I learned not to do what I did again because of it. When my parents scolded me with words, they didn't do a thing. I did whatever it was I did again. When they hit me, I learned that what I did was wrong so I stopped doing it. Again, way to go assuming that I was beat every waking moment of the day.

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Again, if any of you take anything Maddox says seriously, you need to get out more. His entire site is devoted to his opinions and his opinions only (which are almost always right). Aside from the seriousness, the rest of the site is exagerrated for humor and it shouldn't be taken seriously: SUCH AS THE OTHER METHODS OF "DISCIPLINING" YOUR KIDS. To say he was treated poorly as a child just because you don't agree with him is very ignorant.

 

Spanking kids is a good thing, very early on before really bad and rebelious traits start to work there way in. I dont believe in hitting your kid across the face, defiantely not at a teenage age. You should have disiplend them enough and hopefully taught them how to behave before their teenage years; so when they are teens i would say hitting is out, more along the lines of harsh restrictions depending on how bad the wrong deed was. I was spanked and disiplened right when i was young, because every time i was gonna yell back to my parents or do something wrong, i always thought, *If i do, i am gonna get spanked hard, and it's gonna hurt real bad!* so i wouldnt do alot, becuase i new what was comming; and that made me not want to do it.

When parents use "Timeouts" i think thats useless, becuase if i am a kid about to do something, and i know if i get caught that my punishment is simply a "timeout", and I wont feel pain, most of the time the crime is worth it for a few minutes of silence