Depression

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  1. Trish

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    Man, it's weird, and I'm confused.
    I know I'm not alone with all this, but yet, I can't help feeling alone in it all. People at school are not the same as me, it feels as if I'm the only one.

    That makes me even more depressed.
     
  2. withnoapologies

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    Will's post made me want to kill myself. *Dies* But seriously, people could take Will's post wrong. Someone who was contemplating death may have read that and felt even lower and actually killed themselves in result of reading that. :\ [/b][/quote]
    thats exactly why i said that to Will, i was saying that for everyone, i hate it when people say those kinds of things, just hate it, thats why, when i listen to "The Thirteenth Step" by A Perfect Circle, i always skip The Outsider... i know they are right, but i am not ready to hear it from a band, i want to hear it from myself when i decide if life is or is not worth living. if you are suicidal, you dont want to hear that your point of view is wrong or anything, you need support
     
  3. LornVourkolakas

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    Yeah, support. The same way boobies need support. But you're right, in my opinion.
     
  4. Cassie

    Cassie The time to hesitate is through.

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    All 9.
     
  5. Phantom Duck

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    All 9. [/b][/quote]
    None. :mellow:
     
  6. LornVourkolakas

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    None. :mellow: [/b][/quote]
    You're not depressed ! You're not cool ! *Kicks phantom duck* J/k. :p
     
  7. TeMpEsT

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    Caught in love again. :unsure:
     
  8. ass_kicker

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    you guys... everybody here who thinks about suicide - dont go. listen to hold on by good charlotte. the song makes me cry. it goes
    "hold on if you feel like letting go
    hold on it gets better than you know"
    please hold on. i know its hard. and i know it wont get better. and it will probably get worse every day... but stay here with me.
    "im here hold on to me
    im right here waiting
    and take my last breath but dont forget
    that ill be right here, waiting."
    please hold on. cos i know whats it like to be the one to survive, i know whats it like to be left behind... stay here with me.
     
  9. numbfuse

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    The video for Hold on changed my perspective on depression and suicide etc...made me realize that it's not worth it unless you'd intentionally want to cause pain over your loved ones.

    i haven't gone through half the bad things that most of you have....no offense...but I can truly say that i've had my share of unfortunate things in my life. All at the age of 7.....and I doubt any 7 year old should go through a divorce, as well as 5 deaths. all around the same time....later much all.
     
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    My post was actually directed toward Andrea's post, which was right before mine. :) [/b][/quote]
    I don't know how encouraging people to live their lives and not commit suicide will push them farther.
     
  11. Andrea

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    Hold On is like my anthem or something. The video and the song has had an impact on me.
     
  12. ass_kicker

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    the video is very good. and it doesnt show you the people who just say "oh, think positive" over and over again... it helps, cos you see how the left behind people feel. and i think thats what its all about. stay here for others...
     
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    I don't know how encouraging people to live their lives and not commit suicide will push them farther. [/b][/quote]
    i dont know how telling people up front and rudely that suicide is a bad idea will stop them from it.



    also, i do not intend to insult anyones feelings toward good charlotte or how Hold On has affected their life, but i dont think that those lyrics are any good... yes i give them support for writing about that topic, but i think it was to a terrible approach. my reasoning:

    1)the only reason they give for not commiting suicide is for the people around them will get sad

    2)"We all bleed the same way as you do. We all have the same things to go through, hoooooooooollllllld on." that is saying that Mr. persuasive guy (lets call him fritz) has gone through the same things as Mr. suicidal person ( lets call him Lee). saying that since, i, fritz have felt the same as you, Lee, but still do not end my life, you, Lee, should also not commit suicide. (has anyone ever heard of people feeling a different ways towards issues?)

    im too lazy right now to come up with any other reasons.
     
  14. Andrea

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    withnoapologies - I do not follow on what you said. Maybe it's because I am tired or something. :mellow:


    Benji and Joel wrote Hold On because they have had close friends who have committed suicide. Good Charlotte has received lots of fan mail from people who are struggling with depression and are looking to resort to suicide. They made that song as a way to help people cope and get help for their problems before it's too late. I believe Good Charlotte has done a great job of addressing the issue of depression and suicide.

    I don't want to start a fight or anything but I really don't see how it's a terrible approach when in fact the song and video is helping people.
     
  15. withnoapologies

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    AH....i expected this.... where shall i start....:thumbsup:


    i think that the lyrics were a terrible approach because i think it was giving people the wrong idea, trust me, i was extremely insulted when i heard that song. if you look back at my point when i made a quote from the song, "But we all bleed the same way as you do, and we all have the same things to go through" i found that line one of the most insulting things ever, saying that because I have this approach to an issue, you must also, there is no need for acting in that such way..... but i dont know, i respond to lyrics in the weirdest kind of fashion.

    being suicidal myself (ive set up dates, havent followed through yet [key word: yet]), i like the suicidal songs that are of the suicidal person's point of view(red hot chili peppers, under the bridge, linkin park breaking the habit) that way i can understand what that person was feeling at the time, and pick out the lines that relate to me, that way i realize that suicide shouldnt be done at the time.

    i have told several people my reasonings for not liking hold on and they all think i'm crazy, whatever.... i am. :wacko:

    i am not trying to insult anyone who has decided against suicide because of that song, i'm just saying that the song didn't swing me. i am also very happy that a band such as Good Charlotte could write of suicide and it makes an impact on several people.yipee!
     
  16. ass_kicker

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    i guess you have a point, and i dont like that line either. im talking about "we all bleed the same way as you do, we all have the same things to go through" line... its just that no, we dont go through the same things.
     
  17. Trish

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    Time and time again, LP's music saved my life.

    But not today, I won't go into detail with the fear of being called at teenie, but today, they almost ended my life.
     
  18. ass_kicker

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    why? its alright.
     
  19. Cassie

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    I couldn't have said it better myself. :)
     
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    I couldn't have said it better myself. :) [/b][/quote]
    :withstupid: :thumbsup: all my freinds think thier depressed wen there not i jst tell them to shut the f**K up and get on with life cuz they are oviously not depressed, i only have one friend that is properly depressed.
     

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