I thought I'd make this topic cause a lot of bands are turning to copyprotection mechanism for preventing their album from getting leaked or distributed via a file sharing network.About 2 months back I got Papa Roach's GAwM and foung that it was not playing properly on my discman cause it was copyprotected..I am a fan and i understand the band's worries but I do not know why the fans a made to suffer.So lets have an open discussion on this issue
I think bands and artists should notice now that trying to prevent an album from leaking onto the internet is pointless because it will get on no matter what. What they should concentrate on is making the best music they can so people will want to pay for it, and adding extra bonuses such as DVDs and hidden tracks to give the buyer more incentive to buy the album. Even decent album art can peak a buyers interest. For example, I've thought against buying Alexisonifre's new album because of the horrendous cover art. I bought Nickleback's "The Long Road" last year and it wouldn't work in ANY of my cd players. I brought it back three times and each time the cd wouldn't work in anything, including the cd player in our 2002 caravan and my hi-tech mp3/cd player. What's the sense of putting all these restrictions on cds if they won't play in the first place? I've vowed never to buy anything from Nickleback anymore.
It amazes me how many CD's get leaked, but Reznor manages to lock up his music so good, it's amazing. I was searching BitTorrent a few days before the re-release of The Downward Spiral, and I couldn't find it. I can't find With Teeth either. Or the Tapeworm shit. So I think it's just a matter of how much the artist cares..
I absolutely agree.But giving DVDs is not a solution as many people are getting bored of these DVDs [/b][/quote] I don't get sick of DVDs. I'm more likely to buy an album if it has a bonus DVD. I think you turned a personal opinion into a generalization.
The re-release of TDS was on IRC last week, I saw it. Warner Bros. is one of the only record companies that puts such high security on the advanced copies of CDs. Example: The Used - In Love and Death, someone leaked it onto IRC the week before it came out and he was found and sued by Warner, I believe. Serves him right though, I mean, he should've known that they can trace who leaked the CD. These copyright things are going way too far though, I mean, I don't feel like seeing FBI stickers on my CDs when I buy them
The re-release of TDS was on IRC last week, I saw it. Warner Bros. is one of the only record companies that puts such high security on the advanced copies of CDs. Example: The Used - In Love and Death, someone leaked it onto IRC the week before it came out and he was found and sued by Warner, I believe. Serves him right though, I mean, he should've known that they can trace who leaked the CD. These copyright things are going way too far though, I mean, I don't feel like seeing FBI stickers on my CDs when I buy them [/b][/quote] I hope LP doesn't resort to such measures.You are quite right I do not wan a CIA sticker on my CD but at the same time I don't want to see record labels say someting like -"Uncle Label Needs You"
I hope LP doesn't resort to such measures.You are quite right I do not wan a CIA sticker on my CD but at the same time I don't want to see record labels say someting like -"Uncle Label Needs You" [/b][/quote] Linkin Park already did that. 'Meteora' wasn't leaked until March 19th/20th, just udner aweek before it hit shelves. They had armed bodyguards and silver briefcases to protect it.
I don't understand why everyone has problems with CDs. Any CD that someone has said is copyright protected and won't work for them has worked perfectly fine for me and I've been able to rip it to my computer with no problems at all (i.e. Nickelback's The Long Road and Papa Roach's Getting Away With Murder). Maybe I have super-FBI equipment that can get past the copyright protection or something. Anyway, I think copyright protection is a good idea, especially since so many albums leak before they're supposed to be released. It does have a slight hinderance on sales (although an article proved that it's a very small - VERY SMALL - hinderance), so measures should be taken to make sure things like that don't happen. Personally I think leaks are a good thing because it lets me sample an album before I waste my money on it.
Exactly what I do, I personally love to listen to what I'm buying before I spend my money on it. Instead of hearing just a single (which the CD normally doesn't sound exactly like), I can get a feel for the whole CD instead and figure out if I really want to buy it.
Papa Roach's 'Getting Away With Murder' worked for me, but Nicelback's 'The Long Road' didn't. It's weird.
Copy protection won't stop leaking. Leaking occurs when someone snags a copy of a listening party preview disk, or a radio station or someone gets an advance cd. If that doesn't happen, someone who works or knows someone who works at a cd store will take the CD out of the back room before it hits the shelves and someone will rip it. Also, copy protection CAN'T stop ripping because as long as the music plays, there's a way to encode it. It's a waste of money.
I hope you don't find With Teeth. No one even knows the track listing (no matter what they say). I think Trent is a different deal because he's naturally secretive and With Teeth and Tapeworm probably aren't comitted to disc yet (He said the Tapeworm stuff was pretty bad). They probably just got done mixing the CD. It'll leak about a week before it comes out. I understand copyright protection for smaller bands but HUGE people like Metallica or whoever bitching just isn't right. It doesn't hurt the sales that much. Artists should make things worth buying. I just downloaded Three Cheers For Sweet Revenge but I'm going to buy it because it's that interesting. When NIN leaks I'm getting it. But I'll buy it because I love Trent's cover/booklet art and I like my listening experience to be "authentic". I don't support crap. If I download your CD and I like 2 out of 12 or so tracks *coughSt.Angercough* then yeah I'm not buying your CD. I think bands like LP know if they make it good enough, people will buy it regardless. It's all in the way you market things. It annoys me when things won't work on my computer or CD player because of copyright protection. I have no intention of giving my music to anyone else. But I'm all for stealing it for myself. That's just me. It doesn't matter where the line is drawn because someone is going to cross it. Piracy won't stop. Like someone already said, advanced copies, stores getting it early, etc. Artists should just concentrate on making their art to the highest caliber. If I'm in one of those bands places I'm not thinking "Oh man who's going to download the leak?" I'm just trying to make my songs an 11 on a scale of 10.
Same here. Good examples would be LIT, Meteora, CC. The last CD i payed for was DMX's Grand Champ which came with a bonus DVD, if it didnt have the dvd i highly doubt that i would have bought it, instead just downloaded it.
I am pretty sick of the RIAA's attempt at stopping people to download/rip music. If all CDs were impossible to rip, I'd bypass the system by playing a CD on my computer, and recording the songs real time with my computer's sound being the source (wave on the sound blaster card)
They are being forced to make music with effort and talent. I don't feel sorry for the music industry.