Discussion in 'News' started by Kevin, May 15, 2014.
Lol at people who think just because a riff sounds simple that it is simple.
Hey, do we know if anyone from LPA/LPL is going to the show on Saturday?
Hey peeps! I got a question for those lucky guys who've heard I think 6 tracks off THP or something, is Chester's vocals stronger than they were in GATS?? Really important question to me just so you know. I'm concerned (and I really feel like punching myself for saying this) because I can no longer deny that his performance in that song fell far short of what has been promised by the album, as did the whole of Until it's Gone. Heaviness, what happened?
Also there is the strong possibility I have consumed beer before posting people!!
You're better off asking this question in the thread dedicated to the 6 songs:
GATS is a heavy song, just in instrumentals not vocals.
Also, Derek confirmed 4 of the 6 songs have screaming with one having boarderline screaming (GATS). All For Nothing is the only one without screaming from the 6 according to Derek. Also 4 of 6 have rapping. Hope this helps
I agree that a "heavy" instrumental is enough to call a song a "heavy" song, but is it only screaming that makes vocals "heavy"?
You do have a point actually, I didnt think of it like that. The vocals are still aggressive, so I would actually agree with you.
I would be willing to argue that while "heavy" tends to describe louder/more distorted music.. and screaming often seems to fit with that music.. what makes a song "heavy", vocally-speaking, has a whole lot less to due with the sound of the voice, and a whole lot more to do with lyrical content and emotional weight.
Speaking to the whole genre debate: A historical and all-encompassing study of the last ~100 or so years of music would suggest that all modern music derives its roots from Gospel and (early) old-Country (both considered "Race-Music" .. Which led to Jazz and Rock.. and then R&B, Rap, and Dance (which is basically just repetitive Rock machinery).. and then everything we have now.
Literally all modern music for the last few decades (because in this sense: sub-genres are, in-fact, irrelevant), is either Rock, R&B, Rap, Dance, or in rare cases Jazz or old-Country influenced.
I would argue that ALL "Pop" music is also either Rock, R&B, or Dance (or some combination).. how catchy vs aggressive it is doesn't change that inherence per-se.
That being said: Hybrid Theory was less "Rock" with rap in it.. than it was "Rap" with guitars and live-instrumentation.
It bothers me that people associate heavy with loud distorted guitars and screaming vocals... I mean, if you were to put UIG into Living Things it would be one of the heaviest tracks alongside LITE and LGM. I just played GATS on guitar a few minutes ago and to be honest there isn't any other LP song that gets me pumped up as much as this song does. To me, that's the definition of heavy.
Wow. This argument is unbelievable.
Linkin Park is Rock. Coldplay is Rock. Imagine Dragons is Rock. Case closed.
And did someone say they didn't consider Linkin Park primarily a Rock band because of various other genres they incorporate? Nu-Metal, Alternative Metal etc. are all sub-genres of Rock. Rock is an umbrella term for various genres. You don't see a band that makes Alternative Metal being labelled as a 'Metal' band. They're always labelled as a 'Rock' band.
Now, some might say my argument is invalid since Metal itself is a sub-genre of Rock. While that's true, Metal has evolved and branched out so much over the years that it can be considered its own genre, with the roots being from Rock. Just like how Rock has its own origins.
Actually, I tend to hear people label alternative metal bands metal (including myself)
Chevelle is a Metal band to me
I'd say GATS vocals are heavy. He is basically shouting in that song rather than screaming.
Part 2 Come Soon.
Yeah , i see what you mean, its also my opinion. There are maybe not the "heaviest" vocals , but heavy enogh to be heavy
I definitely agree.
Chevelle is not a metal band.
of course they are. especially their new album
They are Alternative Metal which is a sub genre of metal.
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